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2 minutes ago, Greg said:

I hear what your saying Tip. I'm only looking for trends right now.

Just be sure to factor in any trend analysis is going to be totally useless if there's going to be a phase with the northern stream because neither of these models are showing that

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2 minutes ago, OceanStWx said:

So will BDL be 25 like the NAM says Sunday morning, or 45 like the GFS? 

But honestly as much as Kevin wants to lose every tree in his yard to ice, the NAM is a lot of sleet. The cold layer is cold and almost 3500 ft deep. 

Tough to scalp hair off you bald guys but that's a paint peeler with wind to boot 

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Just now, snowgeek said:


Looks like more northern / southern stream separation like the Euro had at 12Z.


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This is a trend I expect...it's just really hard to keep them in phase...the vortex to the north is screaming along while the southenr stream moves slower...it's going to want to shear it out.

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2 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Yeah but the Euro phased ... beginning that process at 96 hours

maybe that none of these models have it right yet

It was kind of a sheared/partial phase though and it waited longer...so it kept the storm from gaining as much latitude to the west. We'll see if that changes...but I am guessing it's going to be hard to get the two streams in sync. On some level, we will eventually see some sort of interaction...I guess the question is how sheared is that partial phase and how long does it take.

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Just now, CT Rain said:

Tossing the low level thermals with the GFS but that would be a pretty nasty ice event down here. 

That would be ridiculous I think down in that area. If we are able to torch the midlevels as much as the GFS says, then someone in SNE would get a monster ice storm. I'm still guessing it doesn't end up that warm aloft, but we gotta consider it for sure.

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