Ginx snewx Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 20 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said: Time to move onto Jose. Interesting GFS with NE bias continues slamming New Eng NE Bias so looks like what NC Cane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 7 hours ago, CoastalWx said: And the euro is OTS. It's way west from 0z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Euro very close now. Big shift NW. SNE is very much in the game I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Snow88 said: It's way west from 0z We track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Just now, CoastalWx said: We track? Of course we track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Man, forget Jose's future track, what's left of it has been throwing up just incredible convection all day. If shear were lower I suspect it'd be going to town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 21 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: We track? Why not. 3 weeks of model runs with Harvey and Irma. Whats another week? Just a quick glances every 6 hours, not invested at all. . As we get further into Sept the flow starts becoming more amplified. So its timing of how everything comes together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Very good chance it ends up being fish food like most of our threats....but plenty of time to take it seriously if it actually ends up in a favorable trough setup once we get inside 4 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 31 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: We track? He gonna shoot due NNW. We take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahofan Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 5 hours ago, JC-CT said: Did you send this to your congressional representatives? I sent it to our congressman, Joe Courtney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 29 minutes ago, alex said: Still baffles me that we don't bury powerlines like they do in other countries. It's expensive, I get it, but how much do we pay to fix them after every storm and what is the cost to the economy of having people and businesses with no power for days? I wonder why we don't just bury them when we're doing major construction on a road. I would think over 50 years you could get just about every mile buried. There's also the aesthetics. Why do we accept lines on the side of every road but will fight tooth and nail about a single cell tower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazey Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Man, forget Jose's future track, what's left of it has been throwing up just incredible convection all day. If shear were lower I suspect it'd be going to town. Agreed. Been putting up the good fight despite hostile environment. Could blow up once it does its anticyclone loop and things become more favourable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 The images coming out of Florida are pretty amazing. Pretty extreme damage in the Keys and areas near Naples. Jacksonville has some pretty extreme flooding going on, I'm guessing few people there took this very seriously. Decent flooding from surge in SC and GA. Obviously could of been worse but I bet this ends up ranked pretty high for monetary costs. Between Harvey and Irma the Southern US has taken a financial beating. Will this affect insurance rates nationally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, MetHerb said: I wonder why we don't just bury them when we're doing major construction on a road. I would think over 50 years you could get just about every mile buried. There's also the aesthetics. Why do we accept lines on the side of every road but will fight tooth and nail about a single cell tower? I have wondered this for years. We have Thomas Edison era utility infrastructure in many places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: I have wondered this for years. We have Thomas Edison era utility infrastructure in many places. I believe it's prohibitively expensive, both from an installation and maintenance perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Just now, Hoth said: I believe it's prohibitively expensive, both from an installation and maintenance perspective. I know, my brother is a contractor for the Verizon and other utilities but sometimes I think it's false economy not to spend the money now and have less headaches later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 12Z EPS showing very little, if any, semblance of a storm left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Hoth said: I believe it's prohibitively expensive, both from an installation and maintenance perspective. I seem to recall some crazy $$$ being mention. Like a million per mile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: 12Z EPS showing very little, if any, semblance of a storm left. Very weak but plenty of members left of the op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 hour ago, alex said: Still baffles me that we don't bury powerlines like they do in other countries. It's expensive, I get it, but how much do we pay to fix them after every storm and what is the cost to the economy of having people and businesses with no power for days? Well just to do Tallahassee was estimated at 2 billion, remember this too, Irma would have covered all of Europe, size matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: The images coming out of Florida are pretty amazing. Pretty extreme damage in the Keys and areas near Naples. Jacksonville has some pretty extreme flooding going on, I'm guessing few people there took this very seriously. Decent flooding from surge in SC and GA. Obviously could of been worse but I bet this ends up ranked pretty high for monetary costs. Between Harvey and Irma the Southern US has taken a financial beating. Will this affect insurance rates nationally? only extreme damage is the Keys, Naples is some flooding, some trailer park damage and trees, sign damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Whineminster said: Yeah....except it did detour. I think just a better focus by the media on the cone versus the center of the cone is needed, so you people aren't as flippant when they aren't subject to a direct hit People needed to prepare for a cat 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazey Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 12Z EPS showing very little, if any, semblance of a storm left.I don't think ensembles should be used for intensity this far out. The location is precarious though. We wait, we watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 48 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: only extreme damage is the Keys, Naples is some flooding, some trailer park damage and trees, sign damage I figured as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 hour ago, alex said: Still baffles me that we don't bury powerlines like they do in other countries. It's expensive, I get it, but how much do we pay to fix them after every storm and what is the cost to the economy of having people and businesses with no power for days? If that 2 gigabucks for Tallahassee is legit, we'd be talking multi-trillion to approach full underground. Might make sense where deep soils occur in population-dense and hurricane susceptible areas. Where I grew up in NNJ, 10 miles north of the glaciers' terminal moraine, about 90% of the burial would involve blasting - huge expense and probably some unpleasant side effects on foundations as well. Lots of other places are sitting on bedrock. (Historical note: NYC went underground as a direct result of the 1888 blizzard trashing their electric/phone lines. Of course, pics from that era, including those from the storm, show poles with 15+ cross-arms, each with 8-10 wires. Fortunately, that's no longer necessary.) Florida trees > NE Trees, those winds for that long a time and we would be trashed in the summer Two types of trees down there: Big grass and "little teapot". Palms are botanically much closer to grasses than to any trees like pine or oak, and the "true" tree species there tend to be short and stout. Natural selection works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said: Very good chance it ends up being fish food like most of our threats....but plenty of time to take it seriously if it actually ends up in a favorable trough setup once we get inside 4 days. Back to ENSO monitoring for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said: I figured as much. made this from Modis, Keys overwash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 This is what a Cat 5 would have done, yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: This is what a Cat 5 would have done, yikes What is that, sand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said: What is that, sand? stripped vegetation, check this out https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=90952 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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