mattm4242 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: I worked at Almacs Supermarket in 78, we didn't have warning so there was no mad rush. In 79 there was a blizzard warning that basically failed, we were wiped out of everything lol. I don't get it but if you need beer definitely get it tonight. I run a meat department at a shaws in Cape Ann, by 2:00 today I had already had to grind 400 pounds of ground beef. I understand it's an awesome storm but who needs that's much hamburger lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithB Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 53 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Timing differences with euro and gfs for tomorrow. Euro is slower it seems. Slower to move in?...or a longer duration event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Just now, mattm4242 said: I run a meat department at a shaws in Cape Ann, by 2:00 today I had already had to grind 400 pounds of ground beef. I understand it's an awesome storm but who needs that's much hamburger lol. LOl Chili today hot tomali? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, CT Rain said: Yeah - looking at the GFS... jesus that convergent signature is nuts. The banding signal is excellent. It's sloped in the lower mid levels for sure, but starts to get a little more vertical from 750 up through 650 mb. Should really enhance the lift in that region as f-gen forcing couples with the lift from below. But again, gives me pause for NW of there. Subsidence on the other side of that band could suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithB Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 54 minutes ago, ineedsnow said: Wow gfs is awesome for here!! You ain't kidding. Enfield is in the GFS jackpot basically. How much would you pay for that to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 19 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Well one of them is western CT through TOL-ORH and maybe Gay. Not sure about second. Maybe SE ma. I missed that post. Gracias muchacho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Huge developing moisture transport at 850mb with the developing 1004mb low over western VA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: I missed that post. Gracias muchacho Rgem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amc Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Anyone think GYX will venture into Blizzard warning territory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 2 hours ago, The 4 Seasons said: I'm coming back here tomorrow to quote you and ill bet you (dollars to donuts) you dont get more than around 12, if its anywhere near 18-24 ill eat my hat. he does bring up an interesting point about ratios...2005,2015 and 1978 are all good examples of tremendous wind driven snows that left epic on the level depths in eastern parts of sne, so was it just that much more qpf or better snow growth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I don't understand the obsession with blizz warnings around here. Just give me a lot of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: Kuchera 18z GFS Yeah that has us getting 3-6" up here which ain't happening james. Its very cold so its giving like 30-40:1 ratios for some in NNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, White Rain said: Are the winds likely to have much impact on the ratios? Seems like it would be tough to get the 20:1 ratios Kuchera is putting out with high winds. I don't think winds look *that strong*... usually the damage comes once the snow is already on the ground and gets wind packed. In the banding though it won't matter...if you have strong lift in the snow growth zone its going to rip fatties. Once its on the ground though it'll depend on your local topography probably...ie trees vs open fields, hill top of a hollow. The wind thing might be overstated in breaking up dendrites...if you have good snow growth it'll happen. I've seen 30-40:1 ratio dendrites on the mountain in like 35-50mph winds at 4,000ft...just cotton candy drifting around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 13 minutes ago, KeithB said: Slower to move in?...or a longer duration event? The peak is more aftn in BOS vs near noon on the gfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, amc said: Anyone think GYX will venture into Blizzard warning territory? Not on my watch. To me it looks like max gusts 25-30 kts during the snow, but really the best winds wait until snow is winding down. So either way I don't think we meet criteria. Blizzards are just so hard to verify more than a few miles away from the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, codfishsnowman said: he does bring up an interesting point about ratios...2005,2015 and 1978 are all good examples of tremendous wind driven snows that left epic on the level depths in eastern parts of sne, so was it just that much more qpf or better snow growth? They had the QPF. The issue isn't necessarily the snow growth....it's what happens after it falls and gets sandblasted by the strong winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, dendrite said: I don't understand the obsession with blizz warnings around here. Just give me a lot of snow. Winds blow for snow. Ruins the pack. No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: Winds blow for snow. Ruins the pack. No thanks Yeah who wants to get 14" of snow only to have grass showing in parts of the yard. No thanks. You want the buried roof look and nice even depth...caked trees, etc. Though I will say when the roof blows clean it does make the snow in the yard last longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 2 hours ago, USCAPEWEATHERAF said: Come on I have heard that nonsense forever now, if the storm is supposed to drop 2' then it will drop 2', ratios and winds won't stop that from happening. Some of the worst winds in a storm have dropped almost 3' of snow, the Blizzard of 2015 and 2005 have brought 33" and 35" respectively with hurricane force winds You had like 3" of liquid in 2015. Good luck with your 18" though. I think I'd peg you closer to 8". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 no thx to wind. give me pouring feathers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Winds blow for snow. Ruins the pack. No thanks It's not a storm if you don't wind...boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I like wind. Makes for a man storm. Who cares about see through fluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, dendrite said: They had the QPF. The issue isn't necessarily the snow growth....it's what happens after it falls and gets sandblasted by the strong winds. Yeah those storms like Feb '78, Feb '13, Jan '05 aren't comparable...they were dumping 2-3 inches of QPF...sometimes even more than that. This storm is like 1/2 to 1/3rd of the liquid equiv. There's isn't going to be widespread 2-3 feet. Having said that, we can't rule out a mega band dumping 20+ in the heart of it...but it will be high ratio fluff that stacks up at 4-5 per hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Yeah who wants to get 14" of snow only to have grass showing in parts of the yard. No thanks. You want the buried roof look and nice even depth...caked trees, etc. Though I will say when the roof blows clean it does make the snow in the yard last longer. I wonder how much city inflation there is when all of the snow that would take up the sfc area of buldings is blown off the roofs and into people's yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: I like wind. Makes for a man storm. Who cares about see through fluff. Youre manly, Im just a boy and accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Yeah who wants to get 14" of snow only to have grass showing in parts of the yard. No thanks. You want the buried roof look and nice even depth...caked trees, etc. Though I will say when the roof blows clean it does make the snow in the yard last longer. Trees rattling, wisps of snow blowing off rooftops - a storm. To each his own I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 minute ago, dendrite said: I wonder how much city inflation there is when all of the snow that would take up the sfc area of buldings is blown off the roofs and into people's yards? I didnt know city folk have yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I like wind. Makes for a man storm. Who cares about see through fluff. I like semi accurate measurements and not having to take guesses at totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Will key in on final numbers after 00z run. Thinking a broadbrush 12-18.... someone may get 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 minute ago, dendrite said: I like semi accurate measurements and not having to take guesses at totals. Meh, it's snow. I'm not gonna lose sleep over being off an inch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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