wxeyeNH Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 .83" in the stratus. Looks like everyone shared the love last night. 62/53F lowering sun angle and brisk breeze makes you really notice the season is starting to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Ended up with 0.91" of rain in the Stratus. Widespread 1"+ through eastern Vermont it looks like over into New Hampshire. We just missed the 1" mark... one of the Stowe Village stations had the 0.94" (southern Lamoille County) for reference... but like 10-20 miles east it was widespread 1-1.75" rainfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Wow. Defeated PF by 0.02". It's like the Washington Generals knocking off the Globetrotters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, dendrite said: Wow. Defeated PF by 0.02". It's like the Washington Generals knocking off the Globetrotters. I know I'm pissed I missed the jackpot by one county.... what is this world coming to. Summer must be on the way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Definitely a fall look to the satellite this morning. CAA stratocu and even getting some mountain waves. That band of clouds SE of MWN isn't really formed from convergence around the peak, but a wave over it. The main inversion is up around 6,000 feet, so some air is squeezed up and over MWN. Immediately downstream is downsloping obviously, but then the wave results in rising motion even farther downstream. RAP has it nailed down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 That's sick that the RAP can pick up on that downstream of the Presidentials...thanks for that sharing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 2 hours ago, OceanStWx said: Even the board knows it's pointless to post your rainfall totals when compared to powderfreak. LOL, I know it’s been especially dry for some of the forum members off to the east this summer, but even down in the mountain valleys, don’t the Northern Greens get more annual precipitation than most spots in New England at similar elevations? I know the site I’m in is a bit unique, but we get substantially more precipitation than spots just 20 miles to the east and west of the spine, and that’s probably a trend in all the mountain valleys around here to some degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Dumped out 0.89" this morning, probably a couple cents came afterward. August prceip now above 3.1", about average for the month to date. And two beauteous days for our peer-review field trip tomorrow and Wednesday, Moosehead Lake region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Brian, we are at CON right now checking the temp sensor. Bad news is that it's dead nuts with the calibration thermometer, and within a degree of the secondary back up. Good (?) news is that when the airport reconditioned the area around the ASOS they added dark mulch as a bed under the thermometer instead of leaving it grassy. That won't really be an issue on a windy day like today, but on a calmer day it sure could be. Has Kevin been moonlighting as a landscaper for regional Tarmacs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Interesting. Makes sense because the lows don't seem too bad. Do they have sod being shipped in as I type this? Do you know when they dropped the mulch? It'd be interesting to compare with my numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, dendrite said: Interesting. Makes sense because the lows don't seem too bad. Do they have sod being shipped in as I type this? Do you know when they dropped the mulch? It'd be interesting to compare with my numbers. Our tech said it was at least a month ago, thereabouts. He ditched the mulch from the box beneath the temp sensor and covered it with white stone that should allow plants to grow through. We'll see if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Wasn't the wind like 10-20mph at the time of the extreme heat? Maybe I should landscape around the asos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Awesome mtn wave image and tidbit about CON ASOS. NNE thread is neat today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, eekuasepinniW said: Wasn't the wind like 10-20mph at the time of the extreme heat? Maybe I should landscape around the asos. Yeah. I looked at the raw data from the high heat in July and there were some decent spikes at short intervals. I'd have to look again to see if they correlated with lulls in speed. Definitely interesting and at least it's something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 1 minute ago, dendrite said: Yeah. I looked at the raw data from the high heat in July and there were some decent spikes at short intervals. I'd have to look again to see if they correlated with lulls in speed. Definitely interesting and at least it's something. The interesting thing would be if there has in fact been a change in condition around the ASOS. It was right there with the calibration thermometer, so it's the local environment or all three temp sensors used today are bad. Could it be landscaping at the ASOS, or is the larger dryness causing a feedback on temps in the area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: The interesting thing would be if there has in fact been a change in condition around the ASOS. It was right there with the calibration thermometer, so it's the local environment or all three temp sensors used today are bad. Could it be landscaping at the ASOS, or is the larger dryness causing a feedback on temps in the area? I noticed that the BGR readings have returned to normal at least. But we accrued about 3 months worth of bad temperature data from that site. Hopefully it gets revised somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: I noticed that the BGR readings have returned to normal at least. But we accrued about 3 months worth of bad temperature data from that site. Hopefully it gets revised somehow. Boy, that one seems fairly noticeable too. Of course, BGR is about as far from CAR as you can get for a maintenance trip. Then again, someday soon BGR will probably be our responsibility. Or even BOX's, as the WFOs are whittled down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 13 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Boy, that one seems fairly noticeable too. Of course, BGR is about as far from CAR as you can get for a maintenance trip. Then again, someday soon BGR will probably be our responsibility. Or even BOX's, as the WFOs are whittled down. Tamarack had pointed out these huge positive departure bullseyes near there on monthly or seasonal maps this summer...usually that is a red flag of bad data...and sure enough I checked MADIS and the data was running like 3F warmer than it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 0.95" here overnight and a fine COC day to boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 3 hours ago, dendrite said: Wow. Defeated PF by 0.02". It's like the Washington Generals knocking off the Globetrotters. I beat him cleanly by 4 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said: I noticed that the BGR readings have returned to normal at least. But we accrued about 3 months worth of bad temperature data from that site. Hopefully it gets revised somehow. I'd noticed the more reasonable afternoon temps at BGR recently. Those two abrupt changes certainly scream site/equipment issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Ocean, that's interesting about dark mulch under the ASOS. Basically an artificial surface you would not find in a natural habitat. Isn't the ASOS thermometer only 6 feet off the ground? I'm surprised there is no NWS guidelines that would say that a certain amount of area around the sensor has to be a natural covering like grass. In other parts of the country like the SW perhaps a rocky surface is the natural surface but in the NE its some kind of green growing material that reflects sunlight differently and perhaps adds moisture to the air layer right above which could easily change temperatures a degree or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Went calm quickly this evening...15-20mph gusts to basically nothing in a few minutes time. Just tickled down to 55.4F. 40s seem inevitable. MAV/MET for CON is 45/46. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Too cold to walk around outside. Windows closed. Crotons threatening to drop leaves. Blargh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 7 minutes ago, eekuasepinniW said: Too cold to walk around outside. Windows closed. Crotons threatening to drop leaves. Blargh. Predictions... Me: 48 CON: 46 You: 52 LCI: 49 BERN3: 44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 8 hours ago, dendrite said: Predictions... Me: 48 CON: 46 You: 52 LCI: 49 BERN3: 44 Not too bad...lows so far.... me: 47 CON: 46/47 Eek: 52 LCI: 51 BERN3: 43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Looks like 46.3F will do it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 2 hours ago, dendrite said: Not too bad...lows so far.... me: 47 CON: 46/47 Eek: 52 LCI: 51 BERN3: 43 Almost as accurate as my rainfall predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 15 hours ago, wxeyeNH said: Ocean, that's interesting about dark mulch under the ASOS. Basically an artificial surface you would not find in a natural habitat. Isn't the ASOS thermometer only 6 feet off the ground? I'm surprised there is no NWS guidelines that would say that a certain amount of area around the sensor has to be a natural covering like grass. In other parts of the country like the SW perhaps a rocky surface is the natural surface but in the NE its some kind of green growing material that reflects sunlight differently and perhaps adds moisture to the air layer right above which could easily change temperatures a degree or two. Actually guidelines do call for grassy surface under the temp sensor. Even our RSOIS equipment for upper air, which is technically anchored to the pavement, has the thermometer extending off the pole to the west so it's over grass. I have just learned that this mulch at CON (and apparently it's not the only station this has happened at, but we don't know which others) was a NWS HQ project and not even the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 44.8F for the low. House was actually pretty chilly this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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