josh_4184 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I woke up thinking this was a April fools joke but definitely no joke and just to add salt to the wound another 4-8" of snow on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I woke up thinking this was a April fools joke but definitely no joke and just to add salt to the wound another 4-8" of snow on the way. You'd better get use to late Springs. The 2 Winter's I lived around there, snow was on the ground until early and mid April both years. And being sandwiched between Huron and Mich, N Lower is very slow to warm up in the Spring.... as you already know I'm sure! BTW...Nice new toy you got the other day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Heading up to somewhere Wed evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_4184 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 You'd better get use to late Springs. The 2 Winter's I lived around there, snow was on the ground until early and mid April both years. And being sandwiched between Huron and Mich, N Lower is very slow to warm up in the Spring.... as you already know I'm sure! BTW...Nice new toy you got the other day! Yea I am "used" to it for the most part since living up this way for the past 3 years but it doesn't make it any easier that's for sure especially when you have new summer toys ! Mid-Range is looking better temp wise. Still have about 5" OTG probably be close to 10-12" by Thursday, maybe even some LES this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Heading up to somewhere Wed evening. I heard of that place, it is around Anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I heard of that place, it is around Anywhere. It's the alternative to going Nowhere, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Somewhere=jackpot TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 The lake effect setup off of southern Lake Michigan on Friday into Saturday looks better than what happened yesterday (colder 850 mb temps, higher inversion heights, etc.), and I could definitely envision some accumulations if things hold. Might be able to get a respectable plume going if things work out. A little early for details but looks like it may tend to favor northwest Indiana more than northeast Illinois at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I woke up thinking this was a April fools joke but definitely no joke and just to add salt to the wound another 4-8" of snow on the way. -5°!!!! 19° here this morning. A low that is common in late January. Had ice on the pond. Still flipping cold out even with the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 The lake effect setup off of southern Lake Michigan on Friday into Saturday looks better than what happened yesterday (colder 850 mb temps, higher inversion heights, etc.), and I could definitely envision some accumulations if things hold. Might be able to get a respectable plume going if things work out. A little early for details but looks like it may tend to favor northwest Indiana more than northeast Illinois at this point.Agreed, it looks fairly impressive for this time of year, mid minus teens at 850 down most of the lake. Although yesterday wasn't a phenomenal setup, it wasn't too bad thermodynamically- I think dry air advecting down the lake kept flake size small. Also I recall reading on NWS Buffalo AFDs that for late season events the strong sun disrupts attempts at an intense single band. I wonder if had yesterday's setup had happened at night, it may have produced more. Of course it's just tougher to accumulate during the daytime this time of year in general.I think that in addition to being better thermodynamically, Friday into Saturday could be helped by part of it occurring at night and early Saturday when a good single band could get going. We'll see if the very dry air mass is a negating factor at all. But overall, think some accumulations are definitely possible with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Agreed, it looks fairly impressive for this time of year, mid minus teens at 850 down most of the lake. Although yesterday wasn't a phenomenal setup, it wasn't too bad thermodynamically- I think dry air advecting down the lake kept flake size small. Also I recall reading on NWS Buffalo AFDs that for late season events the strong sun disrupts attempts at an intense single band. I wonder if had yesterday's setup had happened at night, it may have produced more. Of course it's just tougher to accumulate during the daytime this time of year in general. I think that in addition to being better thermodynamically, Friday into Saturday could be helped by part of it occurring at night and early Saturday when a good single band could get going. We'll see if the very dry air mass is a negating factor at all. But overall, think some accumulations are definitely possible with this one. Good points. The most favorable factors coming together at night should help. *Could* have lake-850 mb delta Ts around 20C and lake-700 mb delta Ts around 30C, both of which are good benchmarks to get a pretty robust response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I'd like to boo all this lake effect talk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I'd like to boo all this lake effect talk! We could talk about the warmup that will eventually come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Only time I could find in about the past 10 years that LOT or IWX issued a lake effect snow advisory in April was April 6-7, 2007, when IWX issued one. Quick glance at that setup shows some similarities as far as 850 mb temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Only time I could find in about the past 10 years that LOT or IWX issued a lake effect snow advisory in April was April 6-7, 2007, when IWX issued one. Quick glance at that setup shows some similarities as far as 850 mb temps. Interesting thing is you mention 07, 85 also had a cold snap around this period and some locations broke records that dated back to 1991 which also had a cold snap in early April. All 3 years ended up huge severe weather outbreaks though once the pattern broke, something to look toward later this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Friday looks like another one of those squally days, perhaps a bit like this past Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I honestly don't mind wind, it's a lot more entertaining than stratiform rain, to me at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 36° at 1:30 pm in April with sun. That's some impressive CAA. People are bundled up like it's February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 36° at 1:30 pm in April with sun. That's some impressive CAA. People are bundled up like it's February. It's beyond strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 It's beyond strange Looks like 37° will do it for this afternoon. Mixed precip is working into the subforum now, all snow further north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Once the North York/EC numbers update I think they'll jibe with yours pretty well. Actually, if Pearson used a ruler to measure snow rather than nipher they'd probably be at or a touch above 30" too. Agree. This makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Rain sleet mix in dekalb at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 If hi-res models are correct, here comes another foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 If hi-res models are correct, here comes another foot. hires2.png Untithires.png How much snow on the ground there today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Just noticed that MQT dropped to -7 this morning...that has to be the coldest on record so late in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 How much snow on the ground there today? 37 and the April sun did its job today... lost about 3" on the ground and about 70% from trees and the roof. snow depth is 21". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Just noticed that MQT dropped to -7 this morning...that has to be the coldest on record so late in the season. I posted about it earlier today. MQT: As of 5am ET, the low temperature at NWS Marquette is -6F. This is the second lowest temperature this late in the "cold" season over the past 50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I posted about it earlier today. MQT: As of 5am ET, the low temperature at NWS Marquette is -6F. This is the second lowest temperature this late in the "cold" season over the past 50 years. Cool...trying to make up for a crappy winter, at least a little bit. MQT hit -9 on 4/6/2003...the only colder temp on record so late in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 -RN/-IP currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtrackertf Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Interesting thing is you mention 07, 85 also had a cold snap around this period and some locations broke records that dated back to 1991 which also had a cold snap in early April. All 3 years ended up huge severe weather outbreaks though once the pattern broke, something to look toward later this month. I'd take another 2007 summer. 90's all the way into October. -5F in April...that is just brutal. And I thought it was awful stepping outside at 19F this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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