jm1220 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 12z GGEM shifted east. Now the low goes east of LI. Still all rain for the majority of the northeast except for far interior areas. http://weather.gc.ca/data/model_forecast/478_100.gif I don't see any way that this could be snow for the coast or really anyone outside of the mountains regardless of how it tracks. The airmass as the storm arrives is putrid to put it mildly. The storm has no access to colder air and the high is retreating east. Pretty much the worst combo possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I don't see any way that this could be snow for the coast or really anyone outside of the mountains regardless of how it tracks. The airmass as the storm arrives is putrid to put it mildly. The storm has no access to colder air and the high is retreating east. Pretty much the worst combo possible. Very Nino like indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Unlikely in an El Nino...possible, you can get suppression sometimes which occurred for a time in 87-88, 02-03, and 09-10. January is slightly drier than December during el nino years...December 1969 was near record wet while January was record dry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Unlikely in an El Nino...possible, you can get suppression sometimes which occurred for a time in 87-88, 02-03, and 09-10. January is slightly drier than December during el nino years...December 1969 was near record wet while January was record dry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorman Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/medr.shtml WPC slide show -Surface- -500mb- -Max Temps - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 hr 72 low kissing obx..mod rain in the area 12z euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 hr 75 brushing the delmarva…heavy rain in the area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 hr 78 50 miles east of LBI Nj…heavy rain in the area…flooding will be a issue and winds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Low just under central LI at 81 hours. Very heavy rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 hr 81 heading just east of nyc…heavy heavy rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 hr 87 3-4 inches of rain for the area…all in less then 24 hrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 northern PA and central NY get a pretty big snowstorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 2-3" of rain through 90hrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 hr 87 3-4 inches of rain for the area…all in less then 24 hrs Warm or cold rain? Temps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Warm or cold rain? Temps? cold…40's and 50's on long island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Euro crushes interior SNE and NNE with alot of snow. A lot of rain for the coastal plain and just inland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 60kt winds over much of the area at 925mb. A met can comment on how much of that would transfer. This looks like a damaging storm. Saturated ground, strong winds and intense rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 60kt winds over much of the area at 925mb. A met can comment on how much of that would transfer. This looks like a damaging storm. Saturated ground, strong winds and intense rain. winds will be strong…this looks similar to march 2010 to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Maybe some light snow as the low moves northeast on Wednesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 we are still feeling the effects of this storm at 12z Thursday…..a little over 48 hrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorman Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Euro 96hrs MSLP & 850mb Wind http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2014120612/ecmwf_mslp_uv850_neus_5.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelocita Weather Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 Any wraparound snows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 we are still feeling the effects of this storm at 12z Thursday…..a little over 48 hrs Not sure if we'll see the same winds/erosion but definitely shades of 12/92. That storm lasted over 48 hours with an inch of snow on the back end. Sustained winds of 40-50 mph away from the coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Dan said yesterday this is an up slope dream . Catskills Berks and Green and Whites. Crush job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Any wraparound snows? very light stuff….surface temps are okay but wouldn't amount to much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Just a ton of moisture available as this originates over the Gulf Stream. The LLJ looks impressive out of the east while the pressure steadily falls from 1009 mb 12Z on 995 mb 0z on Tuesday. That is a very tight gradient with the 1040 mb high to the north focusing strong winds and moisture inflow into the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Dan said yesterday this is an up slope dream . Catskills Berks and Green and Whites. Crush job. Any upslope in the poconos or NW nj higher terrain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Just a ton of moisture available as this originates over the Gulf Stream. The LLJ looks impressive out of the east while the pressure steadily falls form 1009 mb 12Z yo 995 mb 0z on Tuesday. That is a very tight gradient with the high to the north focusing strong winds and moisture inflow into the area. you love storms like this….enjoy! Going to be cool seeing that firehose coming off the atlantic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Any upslope in the poconos or NW nj higher terrain? E PA prob but in NNJ no wrap around for u guys . Not much but there should b snow showers all the way to the coast as this pulls east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 How does MSV look in terms of snowfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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