moneypitmike Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Actually, it even gets BOS into the 20s as the storm is moving in with heavy snow, lol. Quebec high FTW. But again, just another solution in the many that we'll see. This is 5-6 days out. I really wish the timing on this would shift for a Sunday afternoon/night start. I'm going to be flying out a 7:00a.m. Monday through Thursday. I'll miss all the fun, returning to heavy snow cover that gets blow-torched away a couple days after I land. Based on area mesosites, my station must be iced. It's still reading 32.3/32. Icicles are still hanging from the grill and clinging to the trees, though, so it's still a little chilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 What a snowy euro run! Yeah that's probably 12"+ for BOS between the two storms. That would make a crappy following week easier to swallow. We'll hope it keeps trending cold...Quebec highs can be friendly to us. But it is fighting against an otherwise crappy pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 That's why the mean has low pressure for days offshore . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Hey if I get snow this week, I'll be surprised. It would ease the disaster following it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neblizzard Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Yeah that's probably 12"+ for BOS between the two storms. That would make a crappy following week easier to swallow. We'll hope it keeps trending cold...Quebec highs can be friendly to us. But it is fighting against an otherwise crappy pattern. The pattern is awful but you got to admit it's quite exciting seeing these storms have so much moisture to work with. Thats why having an El Niño on your side doesn't hurt. We really needs things to turn around for the end of the month. If and when they do it could be quite an epic pattern going forward. Let's sneak in a big storm before the blowtorch commences in the 11-15 day period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I can't wait for MPM and PF to give us congrats followed by 15" of deformation snows 3 days later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I would bet, that if this somehow became a BIG Player for SNE and NNE, it would make the Louzy stuff coming after alot easier to take!? At least that's how I would feel. That tune will change as soon as the snow stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I can't wait for MPM and PF to give us congrats followed by 15" of deformation snows 3 days later. Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 The pattern is awful but you got to admit it's quite exciting seeing these storms have so much moisture to work with. Thats why having an El Niño on your side doesn't hurt. We really needs things to turn around for the end of the month. If and when they do it could be quite an epic pattern going forward. Let's sneak in a big storm before the blowtorch commences in the 11-15 day period. There's definitely some big upside in this setup...the timing will have to work out well and keep that high in a good spot...but yeah, the moisture fetch from this has higher ceiling potential than a fast mover, so if the cards break right, then it could be an exciting event. It is still an uphill battle at the moment, but it's better to see it trending a bit colder than the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I can't wait for MPM and PF to give us congrats followed by 15" of deformation snows 3 days later. Lol...MPM will b**ch and whine his way to 18" after every met tells him it looks great for his area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo1000 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Just curious what the mets think this storm that is modelled will do to Nova Scotia Canada?. Also, will the pattern that will turn crapper next week have any impact on Nova Scotia?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Anybody else see **similarities** to earl Dec 2003 here? I am NOT calling for the same outcome, but that was also a questionable pattern for a big snow event, and the month was classic warm nino-dec...one of my top analog years back through the fall. http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/NARR/2003/us1204.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 Anybody else see **similarities** to earl Dec 2003 here? I am NOT calling for the same outcome, but that was also a questionable pattern for a big snow event, and the month was classic warm nino-dec. http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/NARR/2003/us1204.php Anybody else see **similarities** to earl Dec 2003 here? I am NOT calling for the same outcome, but that was also a questionable pattern for a big snow event, and the month was classic warm nino-dec. http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/NARR/2003/us1204.php I had the same thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols89 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 As I have been saying for days, models have no handle on the northern stream and arctic stream interactions over the Great Lakes. GFS shows this energy diving southeastward near the eastern GRT Lakes, while the CMC and EURO have the energy digging west of the western Great Lakes, like more over the Midwest instead. Anytime you have a spike in the +PNA domain, you have an above normal shot at a cold period with a chance for a snowstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Lol...MPM will b**ch and whine his way to 18" after every met tells him it looks great for his area. No--my complaining will be that I'll be sitting in 50's in CID and miss all the fun here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Lol at Euro refusing to torch us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 There's definitely some big upside in this setup...the timing will have to work out well and keep that high in a good spot...but yeah, the moisture fetch from this has higher ceiling potential than a fast mover, so if the cards break right, then it could be an exciting event. It is still an uphill battle at the moment, but it's better to see it trending a bit colder than the other way around. If we could ever get the low to start its crawl a bit further north. If you have access to the Euro precip plots look at the precip shield that sits south of New England from Sunday morning till Monday afternoon. If that shield were ever to sit over us instead this could become really fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Paul Gordon Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 How long is the lousy pattern after the potential snow actually supposed to last? I keep hearing it being referred to as a crapper. Are we talking two weeks in the 50's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Even JB seems skeptical of the euro right now...I do like it during El Ninos and it did hit this last event but only 3...maybe 4 GFS ensembles at 144 hours support it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Early December 2003 was herald in by the mother of all snow squalls and arctic blast that set the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Lol at Euro refusing to torch us. That whole mess become a massive vortex to the northeast and we sort of get stuck on the SW flank of it verbatim this run...with little lobes rotating around. It's like in the 80s over the plains, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Anybody else see **similarities** to earl Dec 2003 here? I am NOT calling for the same outcome, but that was also a questionable pattern for a big snow event, and the month was classic warm nino-dec...one of my top analog years back through the fall. http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/NARR/2003/us1204.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Hopefully people don't fall in love with the euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I can't wait for MPM and PF to give us congrats followed by 15" of deformation snows 3 days later. Congrats! lol... These Nino events may tend to juice up closer to go-time too...maybe we just end up with a GFS upslope storm though, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols89 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 LOL Will that's funny, of course it would spare us a warm up, but I'm not going to worry about that, I am keying in on the snowstorm potential we have the models trending towards, even the coastline gets in on the fun, but GFS shows what you don't want, however it has trended colder every run the past two days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols89 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Oh especially with this southern stream system as juiced as its going to be, models showing 1.5" of QPF over OH and central plains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Wait we are actually discussing 144 model runs, somebody going to be pissed. Looks more and more like the JMA people were pissed we discussed. Should be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Hopefully people don't fall in love with the euro. Already done...ready for my heart to be broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols89 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Yeah Gin, but someone is going to happy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Wait we are actually discussing 144 model runs, somebody going to be pissed. Looks more and more like the JMA people were pissed we discussed. Should be fun. I would still say we just make a pact to leave the JMA alone... haha. Just let it be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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