cjr231 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Looking at the radar echoes the heavy bands were on the south shore last night, I got 9", Heavier bands didnt seem to make it past Todt Hill (its topography might act as a very localized "shadowing" effect where areas west of todt hill got less intense bands) I think that Todt Hill effect is very real. It has happened numerous times that eastern and southern parts of Staten Island do better in these "cold" storms. Northern and western parts tend to avoid changeovers and have better ratios in close call storms or storms with mixing lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Final Total here: 8.5" Beautiful Out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SNfreak21 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I think that Todt Hill effect is very real. It has happened numerous times that eastern and southern parts of Staten Island do better in these "cold" storms. Northern and western parts tend to avoid changeovers and have better ratios in close call storms or storms with mixing lines. Which side of SI do you live in and how much did you get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Final Total here: 8.5" Beautiful Out there. It was around 7.8-8.2 for sure I think here...not sure what they did at LGA or NYC but both seem low with NYC being way too low at 6.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpsonsbuff Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Just went on a twitter rant on this... The UWS trained spotter got 7.8. It was around 7.8-8.2 for sure I think here...not sure what they did at LGA or NYC but both seem low with NYC being way too low at 6.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseBlizzard2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Final Total: 10.1" of snowfall. Scarsdale got an Official report of 9.8". I guess my measurements verified well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Am curious as to people's thoughts on the wide disparity frequently seen between neighboring towns on NWS snowfall reports. For all the in depth analysis, discussion, banter, predictions about how much will fall, I would think that objective reliable sources would be looked to for verification. What in fact is used for verification? Is it only certain locations, certain certified spotters, or something else? Case in point, and this is just an example -- I could point back to similar situations with most important storms over the last five years -- you've got neighboring towns with similar geography, microclimate etc. in south Nassau, LI today, with measurements which are 6 inches apart. Yes, I know banding can sometimes cause wide disparities, but not most of the time as we tend to see. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjr231 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Which side of SI do you live in and how much did you get? I actually live in Hoboken but grew up on SI and I am there often for storms (get to take them in better at my parents than in my Hoboken apartment) I had to go to work this morning so I couldnt measure but I would say 8 easy. Probably pushing 9. Tough to say with drifts. My parents place is in Oakwood, so south and somewhat east of Todt Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SNfreak21 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I actually live in Hoboken but grew up on SI and I am there often for storms (get to take them in better at my parents than in my Hoboken apartment) I had to go to work this morning so I couldnt measure but I would say 8 easy. Probably pushing 9. Tough to say with drifts. My parents place is in Oakwood, so south and somewhat east of Todt Hill. Oakwood did good for sure, bands were coming in from the ocean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masomenos Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The ratios didn't seem that great around here...very dense, dry snow. Ended up with ~8". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 10.2" total here, took about 50 measurements. Mostly between 9-11" a little overkill lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 8-9" in springfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 7-8 here in edison…great storm with the cold temps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 8"-11" in all of Queens. LGA's total is a touch too low. JFK adjusted their total to 7.9" at 1:00pm. I suspect they will do the same for LGA and NYC, once they realize it's impossible to not have gotten that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Looks like Queens was one of the jackpot areas for this storm. Makes sense. There was great banding over us for hours from 1am to 4am...Looks like a borough wide 8"-11.5" event for Queens: ...QUEENS COUNTY...SOUTH OZONE PARK 11.5 1130 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTERMIDDLE VILLAGE 10.8 700 AM 1/03 PUBLICKEW GARDENS 10.5 908 AM 1/03 PUBLICBAYSIDE 10.0 1200 PM 1/03 PUBLICGLENDALE 10.0 600 AM 1/03 PUBLICASTORIA 8.1 750 AM 1/03 PUBLICREGO PARK 8.0 925 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTERNYC/JFK AIRPORT 7.9 100 PM 1/03 FAA CONTRACT OBSERVERWOODSIDE 7.8 500 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTEROAKLAND GARDENS 7.8 925 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 It's not melting since it's so far below freezing -- it's actually sublimating (going directly from a solid to a gas). wont happen by me since my snow was dense to begin with since ratios sucked and had no fluff factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Looks like Queens was one of the jackpot areas for this storm. Makes sense. There was great banding over us for hours from 1am to 4am...Looks like a borough wide 8"-11.5" event for Queens: ...QUEENS COUNTY... SOUTH OZONE PARK 11.5 1130 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTER MIDDLE VILLAGE 10.8 700 AM 1/03 PUBLIC KEW GARDENS 10.5 908 AM 1/03 PUBLIC BAYSIDE 10.0 1200 PM 1/03 PUBLIC GLENDALE 10.0 600 AM 1/03 PUBLIC ASTORIA 8.1 750 AM 1/03 PUBLIC REGO PARK 8.0 925 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTER NYC/JFK AIRPORT 7.9 100 PM 1/03 FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER WOODSIDE 7.8 500 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTER OAKLAND GARDENS 7.8 925 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTER And Forest Hills came in with 6, lol.... no way considering we border Kew Gardens... I think we ended up with 9.5, but wasn't up early enough to get a proper measurement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 ...PASSAIC COUNTY...BLOOMINGDALE 7.8 700 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTERWAYNE 6.5 1000 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTERWEST MILFORD 6.0 1100 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTERHASKELL 6.0 800 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTERRINGWOOD 6.0 600 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTERCLIFTON 5.0 403 AM 1/03 NJ DOT way off in bloomingdale, 6 max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 And Forest Hills came in with 6, lol.... no way considering we border Kew Gardens... I think we ended up with 9.5, but wasn't up early enough to get a proper measurement. I left out LGA also, which is a 7:00am measurement. JFK adjusted to 7.9" at 1:00pm. So I hope LGA's next and final report is near 8"+ as well. 6.9" is a touch too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 That would be a drift. The wind blown snow tends to settle out where the wind speed drops, i.e., on the leeward side of the house. Possibly, the total seemed in line with some other protected areas around the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Looks like LGA is reporting 8" of snow depth right now, so the updated PNS should have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I left out LGA also, which is a 7:00am measurement. JFK adjusted to 7.9" at 1:00pm. So I hope LGA's next and final report is near 8"+ as well. 6.9" is a touch too low. Yeah, the LGA total is definitely too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Looks like Queens was one of the jackpot areas for this storm. Makes sense. There was great banding over us for hours from 1am to 4am...Looks like a borough wide 8"-11.5" event for Queens: ...QUEENS COUNTY... SOUTH OZONE PARK 11.5 1130 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTER MIDDLE VILLAGE 10.8 700 AM 1/03 PUBLIC KEW GARDENS 10.5 908 AM 1/03 PUBLIC BAYSIDE 10.0 1200 PM 1/03 PUBLIC GLENDALE 10.0 600 AM 1/03 PUBLIC ASTORIA 8.1 750 AM 1/03 PUBLIC REGO PARK 8.0 925 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTER NYC/JFK AIRPORT 7.9 100 PM 1/03 FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER WOODSIDE 7.8 500 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTER OAKLAND GARDENS 7.8 925 AM 1/03 TRAINED SPOTTER 8-12" across Long Island and much of NYC turned out to be a good estimate. 10" here is definitely a top tier event considering we had no rain or sleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jims Videos Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I'll guess 11-13 in wall Twp for the final numbers eastern Monmouth county. Too much drifting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 8-12" across Long Island and much of NYC turned out to be a good estimate. 10" here is definitely a top tier event considering we had no rain or sleet. This storm is larger than the expected max storm snowfall for a given season. Hell, this would have been the biggest storm I had experienced prior to age 13 (sans 1983, when I was a wee toddler)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 10" on the dot good stuff one drift is 26.7" high 0_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseBlizzard2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 10" on the dot good stuff one drift is 26.7" high 0_o Same here on the drifts. Pretty nice drifts for Heavy Snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgerb Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 For those of you taking multiple (50? ) measurements, just curious....are you taking those on solid surfaces (driveway, tables, snowboards), or rather on grassy surfaces? If the latter, are you trying to account for the air between the snow and the ground thanks to the snow pack lying on top of the grass? For instance, I measured 6.0" on my board, but if I were to shove the ruler into the grass until it stops, it'd be more like 8". Thus 6.0" is my total, but I've seen many nearby reports closer to 8" (could be legit, of course). Ratios were mediocre, with 0.59" melted yielding very close to a 10:1. Looks great though. Just enough to qualify as a significant snow, but not too difficult to dig out of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user13 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Final Total 10.8" in Glendale with 3'+ drifts ...That band was awesome last night - This was my 5:50am pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metsfan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 9 inch total in SW suffolk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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