Kilgore Trout Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 NWS NEEDS to stop using the phrase "hurricane force winds" in its advisories. The winds are not 1-minute sustained greater than 74 mph. That is the threshold necessary for a hurricane, otherwise they are just wind gusts >= 74 mph. No they don't. I know some people may be picky about definitions, but when the public hears the word "hurricane force" in their public advisories, it relays to the general public a real sense of the danger of these strong winds. The general public doesn't care about some definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkesboroDude Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Fairly close to the main line...but maybe far enough east to squeeze out a tornado warning in the foothills if things strengthen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavarreDon Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Thoughts & prayers to any peeps affected by these storms. Except for .3" of rain in about 4 minutes it is a non event here in Weaverville so far. Not going to be the case once you get out of the Mnts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguy3107 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Looks like a little rotation ramping up on the cell near Sandy Springs, but doesn't look particularly serious ATTM. Definitely more rotation than its had in the last 30 minutes or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoWeatherman Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Clear example of it getting colder later this week with moisture starved clipper systems to watch...IMO. Next weeks clipper moisture content has nothing to do with todays rain...absolutely nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainforrest Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 just got our first rumble of thunder other than that just heavy rain up to 3.62 inches now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiQuiDBuD Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Severe storms just don't seem to be able to hold together here in the mountains. Just heavy rain and one clap of thunder. Several high wind gusts before the line arrived, but underneath it the winds are fairly calm. Tstm warnings are busting here and the wind warning may be a bit overdone, but at least the public is warned and hopefully paying attention. I'm at 2.1" for the day, and about a half inch last night. Approaching 11" for the month though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevo Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 No they don't. I know some people may be picky about definitions, but when the public hears the word "hurricane force" in their public advisories, it relays to the general public a real sense of the danger of these strong winds. The general public doesn't care about some definition. To add to this...people living in and around the highlands, upstate, mountains, etc. do not understand the difference, and clearly do not need to. A 75 mph wind - whether lasting 10 seconds or 1 minute - is a 75 mph wind. It doesn't take a minute to crash hardwood limbs from inflexible oaks - Pecan trees do not have the elastic survival bend like Palm trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Sun finally peaking through here. There doesn't seem to be a lot of concern for anything widespread in this area, though, outside of an isolated gust or two to severe limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suncat Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 After an overcast day, the sun is shining in Raleigh. Air temperature is 69 F right now, but I suspect it will be going up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Sun finally peaking through here. There doesn't seem to be a lot of concern for anything widespread in this area, though, outside of an isolated gust or two to severe limits. I was getting ready to say the same thing. Hope the sun coming out doesn't increase the instability much. But the system isn't supposed to get here until around 7:00 tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrasher Fan Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 could be some rotation developing just west of Peachtree City. Very close to the radar site however so its tough to verify. Also the discrete cells down towards Columbus are some of the best structures ive seen so far today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Visible loop for Central NC...could prime the Piedmont for some storms to pop off ahead of the squall line later, we'll see. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/wfo/rah/flash-vis.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I was getting ready to say the same thing. Hope the sun coming out doesn't increase the instability much. But the system isn't supposed to get here until around 7:00 tonight. I'll probably be more like 9-10. Looks like we may get a few gusts to 45-50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Severe storms just don't seem to be able to hold together here in the mountains. Just heavy rain and one clap of thunder. Several high wind gusts before the line arrived, but underneath it the winds are fairly calm. Tstm warnings are busting here and the wind warning may be a bit overdone, but at least the public is warned and hopefully paying attention. I'm at 2.1" for the day, and about a half inch last night. Approaching 11" for the month though. pretty much too much high terrain and cooler temps on the ridgetops kill these everytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwagner88 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Officially at 2.1 inches here. Looks like the precip amounts may have been underdone for this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I'll probably be more like 9-10. Looks like we may get a few gusts to 45-50. Hires NAM says around 11pm-12am for Raleigh, RUC/RAP says about the same for the main squall line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainforrest Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 as the old saying goes it's raining like pouring piss out of a bucket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmiez Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 To add to this...people living in and around the highlands, upstate, mountains, etc. do not understand the difference, and clearly do not need to. A 75 mph wind - whether lasting 10 seconds or 1 minute - is a 75 mph wind. It doesn't take a minute to crash hardwood limbs from inflexible oaks - Pecan trees do not have the elastic survival bend like Palm trees. That's just it! If they don't understand the difference, how would they understand the analogy? If the NWS has to use an incorrect analogy to convey the seriousness, its probably not the best one to use. If the winds are only forecasted to 69 mph, which is still severe, and still dangerous, but not "hurricane force" , should the scenario be ignored? No, not at all! So the NWS is creating a precedent that's doomed to come back and bite them (public ignores advisory because its not "hurricane strength"). Sorry for hijacking thread. back to the original focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Hires NAM says around 11pm-12am for Raleigh, RUC/RAP says about the same for the main squall line. OK. I was going by the Raleigh NWS briefing they had earlier. Must have slowed down some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 OK. I was going by the Raleigh NWS briefing they had earlier. Must have slowed down some. Some storms can pop off around 7pm though ahead of the squall line...making it seem like it's reached us before it actually has, but I'd definitely listen to the NWS over what the NAM is saying at this point in time, haha. But it definitely has slowed down since last night per the models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeznado Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Main line hitting now- looks pretty tame except for very heavy rain. I think the Metro dodged a bullet for the most part. Not even any thunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanc2001 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I'd be getting pretty nervous if I were in my hometown of Columbia SC to Florence area. Sun out, its hot and look whats coming. Just texted my oblivious sister and parents there to keep an eye to the sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Hires NAM says around 11pm-12am for Raleigh, RUC/RAP says about the same for the main squall line. Good deal, thanks man. Do you know if more wind reports should accompany that line as it moves east or is it at it's peak now? I thought the LLJ is supposed to strengthen with time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrasher Fan Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Main line hitting now- looks pretty tame except for very heavy rain. I think the Metro dodged a bullet for the most part. Not even any thunder. Yes it does. Things just got a little too ragged out ahead of the line when it crossed the AL/GA line for any discrete cells to form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DixieBlizzard Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I was working from home today and the storm missed up by, maybe, 1.5 miles. It went between where I was and where my daughter was in school. Damage to the town of Adairsville is extensive. I would be surprised if this wasn't an EF-3 at the very least. With all of the roads closed, it took a while to get back to the house. Luckily for us, our subdivision has underground lines and the power just came back on but much of Adairsville is older and may not get power back for a while based on what I witnessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkesboroDude Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Strengthening where Blacksburg cancelled the severe thunder storm watch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonGA Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I was working from home today and the storm missed up by, maybe, 1.5 miles. It went between where I was and where my daughter was in school. Damage to the town of Adairsville is extensive. I would be surprised if this wasn't an EF-3 at the very least. With all of the roads closed, it took a while to get back to the house. Luckily for us, our subdivision has underground lines and the power just came back on but much of Adairsville is older and may not get power back for a while based on what I witnessed. I justed asked about you in the other thread. Good to hear you and yours are ok. North Bartow has become a tornado magnet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduwx Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I was working from home today and the storm missed up by, maybe, 1.5 miles. It went between where I was and where my daughter was in school. Damage to the town of Adairsville is extensive. I would be surprised if this wasn't an EF-3 at the very least. With all of the roads closed, it took a while to get back to the house. Luckily for us, our subdivision has underground lines and the power just came back on but much of Adairsville is older and may not get power back for a while based on what I witnessed. Glad to hear you and your family are ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DixieBlizzard Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I justed asked about you in the other thread. Good to hear you and yours are ok. North Bartow has become a tornado magnet. Man, I am sick of this already. I thought the area of Cherokee I used to live at was bad but this is our 3rd brush with literal disaster in 2 years. Thanks for you guys thinking about us. The town is pitiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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