HKY_WX Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I wonder how that army corps guy is going to feel when at this time tomorrow night they are still getting hammered by a SE flow up the river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkman Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 What was that Army Corps guy smoking? The worst of the surge isn't anywhere close to being over. He basically has to say that to keep the public calm. It's too late for people to evacuate, saying anything that may cause a panic will only make things worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 The eyewall of the storm is in the perfect spot for funneling water into the area and the storm is basically stalled, it doesn't even need to wrap up to know things are going to get worse for awhile. It's not right for government officials to be this freaking oblivious to reality. 9.9 ft of surge now at Shell Beach, 0.4 ft more than Gustav. 10.06 now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I agree with everything Turtle has been saying. The worst surge isn't even occurring yet. Once this band of 80-90 mph surface winds moves ashore, your going to see some heavy surge rises. Absolutely textbook spot for funneling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALhurricane Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 How they can be claiming 'victory' at low tide is baffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailMan06 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 He basically has to say that to keep the public calm. It's too late for people to evacuate, saying anything that may cause a panic will only make things worse. Yeah, but it's irresponsible and quite frankly a bit morally wrong to those people living down in that parish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 The reason a lull has been observed along the river is due to the eye being over the mouth of the river, winds are low TS force down at pilot town. When the backside of the eyewall hits as this crawls NW/wraps up (which is slowly happening right now, winds are increasing again at pilot town) we're going to see rapidly rising levels again. Also the freshwater input coming down the river is getting worse every hour, tons of rain. Due to the rain surge doesnt even have to rise for the river to rise... http://tidesonline.n...st, SW Pass, LA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Grand Isle Mayor speaking on Channel 8 news and he said the island from what he can see has significant damage and the water on the island is waist deep, and he said the winds are much much higher than any cat 1 hes ever been through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 FWIW, recon is finding some 79 knot surface winds in the NE quad now. That's the area I am most concerned about for surge... Could give people quite a surprise if this continues to wrap up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Plaquemines Parishes President roof on his house has been ripped off! Sounds like this storm might be a touch stronger than 80 mph! Poor guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derecho! Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Surge level rising pretty rapidly again in Bay St. Louis MS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Wind gusting to 60 mph in Pilot Town, water has risen to 4 ft, up 0.5 ft in the past hour and the highest yet. Before the lull water peaked at 3.7 ft, which was a little before 8 pm CDT. EDIT: 4.2 ft seconds after I posted this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrips27 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Power flashes on webcam on TWC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyForYourThoughts Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I-610 underpass is underwater and can't keep barricades up because of the wind, per WDSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Power flashes on webcam on TWC. CNN reporting 160,000 without power in LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailMan06 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Yet another Army Corps official downplaying the surge potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Shell beach is up to 10.34 and rising pretty steady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witness Protection Program Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Pretty sure there isn't much of a levee on the east bank of the river across from Port Sulphur, so surge above about 5' would be coming from the east and northeast across the marshes (ultimately from the Gulf) rather than pushed up the river channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrips27 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Shell beach is up to 10.34 and rising pretty steady link so we can follow along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cast4 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 link so we can follow along? http://tidesonline.nos.noaa.gov/data_read.shtml?station_info=8761305+Shell+Beach,+LA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi_sky Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 CNN reporting 160,000 without power in LA. As of 9:54pm, it's 211755 Entergy customers alone without power. Watching the number constantly going up is surreal. It ticks up by at least 1000 customers every few minutes. http://viewoutage.entergy.com/la.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Mississippi river up to 11.5 ft in New Orleans as of 9 pm CDT, thinking army corps dude flat out lied to the weather channel about river levels dropping. http://water.weather...&output=tabular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Here's all the tidal gauging stations in LA. http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/station_retrieve.shtml?type=Tide%20Data&state=Louisiana&id1=876 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishingForWarmWeather Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Anyone have any good sites for determining surge reports, or any reports, out of Biloxi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanNH Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Pretty nice map view of the various tide gauges. http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/gmap3/index.shtml?type=PreliminaryData®ion=Louisiana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Pretty nice map view of the various tide gauges. http://tidesandcurre...egion=Louisiana Am I reading the Bayou Gauche gauge wrong? Located just west of New Orleans. It says 32 feet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derecho! Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Mississippi river up to 11.5 ft in New Orleans as of 9 pm CDT, thinking army corps dude flat out lied to the weather channel about river levels dropping. http://water.weather...&output=tabular As I mentioned at the time he spoke the level had actually dropped at Pilottown in the previous hour. Also keep in mind that EM types treat the NHC track as precision gospel - they all have GIS software plotting the track and timing down to the minute and the corner of the street, and he has it fixed in his head that the storm would in fact keep moving NW and reverse wind direction. I was a bit perturbed at Cantore making a big deal of the Mississippi still flowing out to sea - I mean, the current is so strong I don't think it's possible for it to actually reverse at New Orleans. And the other thing is that the river can easily keep flowing out to sea but RISE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr5001 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Am I reading the Bayou Gauche gauge wrong? Located just west of New Orleans. It says 32 feet? that is a close to normal value for there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanNH Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Am I reading the Bayou Gauche gauge wrong? Located just west of New Orleans. It says 32 feet? On second look the map values look buggy, if you click on the individual station for the graphs that 32' station shows missing data, and Pilottown shows 0' on the map but about 6.6' on the graph data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derecho! Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Anyone have any good sites for determining surge reports, or any reports, out of Biloxi? There's no tide guage in Biloxi - it's in-between the Waveland (Bay St Louis) and Pascagoula guages, viewable at the links recently posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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