Tropopause_Fold Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 How come no names? Kevin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 They are pretty decent actually. They actually reintensify the -EPO a little bit around Dec 11 and then it relaxes after that. But the whole time we have above avg heights in the PNA region of W Canada. We start getting more troughing the SW US as time goes on which promotes more of a gradient pattern as it tries to pump the SE ridge a bit which is in opposition to the Canadian +PNA that is driving cold air southward. A day late but hopefully not a dollar short. All going according to plan IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Kevin. Pretty sad when he won't answer himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 How come no names? Kevin Wood. El 980' ASL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 A day late but hopefully not a dollar short. All going according to plan IMHO. Well the EPO actually goes negative before that...it just gets re-enhanced on Dec 11 on the ensembles. It looks like a good AK ridge around Dec 7-8 initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Pretty sad when he won't answer himself You always hurt the one you love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Overnight Euro ensembles look better. But nothing is a slam dunk... After the cold snap Dec 5-8 it's unclear how exactly the pattern sets up after that. Do we keep ridging on the west coast or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Well the EPO actually goes negative before that...it just gets re-enhanced on Dec 11 on the ensembles. It looks like a good AK ridge around Dec 7-8 initially. I'd like to think the euro is applying that bias across the southwest, but I'm not so sure the ensembles exhibit this bias. Even a cross between the GFS and Euro would be nice as the GFS tries to keep heights lower over the northeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 We could write an episode for Days of our Lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 It would be nice if we could turn the Dec 5-6 event into something wintry. It's going to be tough. I hope NNE is able to get something at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Kevin Wood. El 980' ASL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KBOS/1960/11/28/MonthlyHistory.html http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KBOS/1960/12/28/MonthlyHistory.html#calendar Interesting that BOS had 46/30 on 12/4/60. NYC was 69 for a high but jackpotted in the blizzard a week later. Keep....hope....alive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Pretty sad when he won't answer himself Pretty sad when your last 5 posts have nothing to do with the pattern change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 It would be nice if we could turn the Dec 5-6 event into something wintry. It's going to be tough. I hope NNE is able to get something at least. You can always hope for a wave to develop along the front, but those features aren't the best to rely on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 You can always hope for a wave to develop along the front, but those features aren't the best to rely on. I doubt anything good happens with that. It seems to be before we get a real change in the pattern. We get a WC ridge but its not coinciding with any type of mechanism to keep heights lower here...its positively tilted too which only pumps up the heights. Maybe we luck out with an anafrontal deal, but I think we just end up seeing a lakes cutter out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 If the euro op is right, then maybe we can hope some of those s/ws riding south from the Canadian prairies can do something along the east coast. The amplitude of the ridge in the GOA may allow them to try and dig. They might only be able to dig so much if the se ridge pumps up, so we'll have to see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 I doubt anything good happens with that. It seems to be before we get a real change in the pattern. We get a WC ridge but its not coinciding with any type of mechanism to keep heights lower here...its positively tilted too which only pumps up the heights. Maybe we luck out with an anafrontal deal, but I think we just end up seeing a lakes cutter out of it. I agree. You can hope the trough is sharp enough for rain to snow type deal, but that's certainly not a good thing to hang your hat on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Pretty sad when your last 5 posts have nothing to do with the pattern change Pretty sad you're allowed to post here at all after all the nonsense you've pulled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Cant we all just get along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Overnight Euro ensembles look better. But nothing is a slam dunk... After the cold snap Dec 5-8 it's unclear how exactly the pattern sets up after that. Do we keep ridging on the west coast or not? My vote is no, not in the period immediately following. Ridge gets cameron diazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 We could write an episode for Days of our Lives Oh its true, A lot of people on edge heading into december Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Perfect pattern honestly at this point IMHO. We had this trashy awful pattern in Oct/Nov and got it out of the way. Much better than having it in Dec/jan or jan/feb. And with hints of pattern change around 12/10.... perfecto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Perfect pattern honestly at this point IMHO. We had this trashy awful pattern in Oct/Nov and got it out of the way. Much better than having it in Dec/jan or jan/feb. And with hints of pattern change around 12/10.... perfecto. Not to mention this trashy awful pattern gave most of New England between 10" and 30" to start the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Pretty sad you're allowed to post here at all after all the nonsense you've pulled Hey now. Nonsense posting is my job, although I welcome the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 there are some similarities between the upcoming pattern and dec 07. not a deadringer comparison but some similar features in play. another positive to consider - what was a remarkably strong vortex in the GOA the better part of the last 15 days is being replaced by a strong + anomaly by day 10-ish. just as it's hard to eradicate a big death vortex, that ridge should have some staying power. and of course, #1 analog at day 11 today is 12/24/04. lock it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 It would be nice if we could turn the Dec 5-6 event into something wintry. It's going to be tough. I hope NNE is able to get something at least. Yea, fingers crossed....I'll prey for upslope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Cant we all just get along? Rodney King, his trial in 92 led to the 92/93 winter, 80 plus inches for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Not to mention this trashy awful pattern gave most of New England between 10" and 30" to start the season I don't consider that October stuff as having any correlation whatsoever to our future this winter anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 there are some similarities between the upcoming pattern and dec 07. not a deadringer comparison but some similar features in play. another positive to consider - what was a remarkably strong vortex in the GOA the better part of the last 15 days is being replaced by a strong + anomaly by day 10-ish. just as it's hard to eradicate a big death vortex, that ridge should have some staying power. and of course, #1 analog at day 11 today is 12/24/04. lock it. Some of the models really dive the energy south and develop a coastal at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Yea, fingers crossed....I'll prey for upslope. You are funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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