40/70 Benchmark Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Weenies will be weenies. If it's not 25 with S+, suicides commence and winter is over. It's warm out, deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Jim Cramer on CNBC just said we need colder wx next weekend to save the retail market. All this warm wx is gonna lead to less people in the stores. That sounds about right. Particularly the last part. I don't know what you guys are talking about. SkiMRG is right this is delightfully pleasant ski weather. It's only 60 at 7am. That's perfectly good snowmaking weather. It's only 37 on Mount Washington. Once you get about about 7500 feet the snowmaking is going splashingly well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Will what are your thoughts for that day 7-8 threat? The setup looks pretty good right now.. now we just need to work on the heights rising more out west to better allow the low to become negative.. what did the euro show last night for that? It looks like crap to me right now. I wouldn't really think about individual threats right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Not a great Euro run last night as we now torch again next week at least you won't freeze at the bills game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 It looks like crap to me right now. I wouldn't really think about individual threats right now I was gonna say....no "threat" in particular looks good in this regime...which is why we are hoping to "sneak" one in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 It's true. There is nothing we can do. In the end, weather will do what it does, despite posting forecasts for Willow AK or posting the d10 euro operational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 It's true. There is nothing we can do. In the end, weather will do what it does, despite posting forecasts for Willow AK or posting the d10 euro operational. This is getting to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 At least it doesn't look horrific at this point and with the ridge in the Pacific, we have a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 This is getting to you. Not on Nov 28th. But when people have delusions about a wild return to winter and impending snow storms, it gets tiresome trying to inject reality. It pollutes the threads with fallacies and it gets old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Not on Nov 28th. But when people have delusions about a wild return to winter and impending snow storms, it gets tiresome trying to inject reality. It pollutes the threads with fallacies and it gets old. This is very hurtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 This is getting to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 This is very hurtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Eeny meeny miny moe, catch a weenie by the toe, if he hollers tell him no snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 This is very hurtful. LOL,I expect a post like that from him. The funny thing is that nothing has changed in 2-3 weeks. Everything seems to be going as planned...especially considering the typical push back in the long range. I feel for those that expect every December to be colder and snowier than normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Euro weeklies come out today...we'll have to see how they look for week 2/3...it should be a bit better than last time given the LR Euro ensembles but they don't always agree. As for early December, aside from some details that are impossible to pin down from 2-3 weeks out, I think its pretty much as originally progged...first 10 days are going to need a miracle to average out negative. But there should be a 3-5 day period in there of more seasonable to a bit below avg temps that will certainly give us a chance. Beyond that there is more uncertainty...there is a possibility that we may end up in a decent gradient pattern but there is also a chance that we may have too much ridging in the east and we won't get much of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 It's true. There is nothing we can do. In the end, weather will do what it does, despite posting forecasts for Willow AK or posting the d10 euro operational. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 lol LOL, well not you as you were posting it for learning purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Weenies will be weenies. If it's not 25 with S+, suicides commence and winter is over. It's warm out, deal with it. Names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 LOL,I expect a post like that from him. The funny thing is that nothing has changed in 2-3 weeks. Everything seems to be going as planned...especially considering the typical push back in the long range. I feel for those that expect every December to be colder and snowier than normal. I just want a winter that doesn't start at Christmas and end by Valentine's Day. That's all I ask - a winter to last longer than six weeks. Summer seems to be able hold its own for months on end (it is practically endless after all as we're told damn near daily), why not winter? If I can't have monstrous snow totals, how about some real honest to goodness cold weather? Like the kind they get down south like in Oklahoma. Waking up to temps near 60 in what is just about December almost makes me wish it was April 28th instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 LOL,I expect a post like that from him. The funny thing is that nothing has changed in 2-3 weeks. Everything seems to be going as planned...especially considering the typical push back in the long range. I feel for those that expect every December to be colder and snowier than normal. outside of some subtle timing differences, it's been remarkably well outlined since the beginning of november. how do the ec ens handle the + height anomalies off the west coast day 10 onward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 LOL, well not you as you were posting it for learning purposes. And for weenie entertainment. Obviously the 00z Euro is a lot warmer for us, but if there's one thing I like to see, it's just getting the cold air down into the CONUS. One way or another, the northern Plains get pretty chilly. The Pacific looks pretty darn good now, and now we just need to develop some degree of blocking in the Atlantic ... or at least a "favorable" +NAO like December 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 LOL,I expect a post like that from him. The funny thing is that nothing has changed in 2-3 weeks. Everything seems to be going as planned...especially considering the typical push back in the long range. I feel for those that expect every December to be colder and snowier than normal. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 outside of some subtle timing differences, it's been remarkably well outlined since the beginning of november. how do the ec ens handle the + height anomalies off the west coast day 10 onward? They are pretty decent actually. They actually reintensify the -EPO a little bit around Dec 11 and then it relaxes after that. But the whole time we have above avg heights in the PNA region of W Canada. We start getting more troughing the SW US as time goes on which promotes more of a gradient pattern as it tries to pump the SE ridge a bit which is in opposition to the Canadian +PNA that is driving cold air southward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 And for weenie entertainment. Obviously the 00z Euro is a lot warmer for us, but if there's one thing I like to see, it's just getting the cold air down into the CONUS. One way or another, the northern Plains get pretty chilly. The Pacific looks pretty darn good now, and now we just need to develop some degree of blocking in the Atlantic ... or at least a "favorable" +NAO like December 2007. I don't think it looks bad in the 11-15 day range. It seems to offer the opportunities of overrunning, but it's too early to tell if they will be more milder solutions or a Dec '07 redux. It doesn't look like a disaster, but the se ridge will be enhanced a bit. The saving grace is that the PAC ridge doesn't appear to be a total flat top and causes the flow in Canada to be more northwest instead of west. Having the mid and upper level flow coming from the northwest will help keep Canada cold and hopefully try to keep any low pressure from riding to our west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Not on Nov 28th. But when people have delusions about a wild return to winter and impending snow storms, it gets tiresome trying to inject reality. It pollutes the threads with fallacies and it gets old. Pollute is the perfect word. Most of us recognize this pattern for what it is, take what we can get the next 14 days and if we get nothing nobody will be surprised. Well almost nobody. This meso map is absolutely astounding for 10am. http://www.pdfamily.com/weather/mesomap.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 They are pretty decent actually. They actually reintensify the -EPO a little bit around Dec 11 and then it relaxes after that. But the whole time we have above avg heights in the PNA region of W Canada. We start getting more troughing the SW US as time goes on which promotes more of a gradient pattern as it tries to pump the SE ridge a bit which is in opposition to the Canadian +PNA that is driving cold air southward. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 thanks. The tendency over the last few days hasn't been to lower heights up there overall which is good. Actually last night, the 00z run raised heights a tad in AK, but I'm just comparing that run from 12z yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 The tendency over the last few days hasn't been to lower heights up there overall which is good. Actually last night, the 00z run raised heights a tad in AK, but I'm just comparing that run from 12z yesterday. How come no names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 LOL,I expect a post like that from him. The funny thing is that nothing has changed in 2-3 weeks months. Everything seems to be going as planned...especially considering the typical push back in the long range. I feel for those that expect every December to be colder and snowier than normal. FYP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 The tendency over the last few days hasn't been to lower heights up there overall which is good. Actually last night, the 00z run raised heights a tad in AK, but I'm just comparing that run from 12z yesterday. That will help us a lot if we can keep heights higher for longer up there. It will make Canada much colder and in turn will probably help press the gradient a little further south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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