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12z model suite seems back on board for sending possible Lee towards the Louisiana and then slowly inland the Interior Southeast...Euro infact dissolves Lee just inland and allows Katia to get a little too close for comfort.

IMO, we're likely to have a lopsided feature dumping a ton of run along the Gulf Coast and heading inland for next week...

Really TX needs this badly but it looks like they are not going to get lucky this time around. I also hope it stays west of I-95 we dont want or need a lot of rain, the rivers are still forecast to be running full middle of next week and a lot of rain would be exactly what we dont need.

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Really TX needs this badly but it looks like they are not going to get lucky this time around. I also hope it stays west of I-95 we dont want or need a lot of rain, the rivers are still forecast to be running full middle of next week and a lot of rain would be exactly what we dont need.

I agree, Texas is now in it's worst drought in history.

This video is really depressing to see how badly Texas is suffering:

~24 inches of rain now possible in southern Louisiana: unbelievable

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I agree, Texas is now in it's worst drought in history.

This video is really depressing to see how badly Texas is suffering:

~24 inches of rain now possible in southern Louisiana: unbelievable

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24 inches of rain is devastating for a state, or at least an area that sits at or below sea level. I hope this thing moves farther to east. And yes Texas is in a drought, but in all honesty, if the tables were turned and we were in a exceptional drought, and Texas was moderate they'd be hoping for rain too.

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24 inches of rain is devastating for a state, or at least an area that sits at or below sea level. I hope this thing moves farther to east. And yes Texas is in a drought, but in all honesty, if the tables were turned and we were in a exceptional drought, and Texas was moderate they'd be hoping for rain too.

The drought in Texas is beyond words and trust me they need it a million times more than anywhere in the SE, but it doesnt really matter since none of us have to power to control the weather. As for 24" in LA most of that area is already watershed and will not have trouble with that kind of rainfall totals for the most part. Similar to the marshes in eastern NC they dont really "flood" from rain ever. However New Orleans could be in trouble as I am not sure if their pumps can handle that much rain

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The drought in Texas is beyond words and trust me they need it a million times more than anywhere in the SE, but it doesnt really matter since none of us have to power to control the weather. As for 24" in LA most of that area is already watershed and will not have trouble with that kind of rainfall totals for the most part. Similar to the marshes in eastern NC they dont really "flood" from rain ever. However New Orleans could be in trouble as I am not sure if their pumps can handle that much rain

If the pumps are anything like they were in the mid 90's when I lived there then no way they can handle it. Perhaps when Katrina came though they replaced some of the pumps that were destroyed during that storm with some more powerful ones. Back in the mid 90's N.O. would flood from a bad summertime thunderstorm. Two feet of rain will be too much for the pumps to keep up with most likely. There is a state of emergency for LA now so they are not taking any chances.

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18Z run is interesting.to say the least. If the GFS is to be believed the SE gets some much needed rain, it will just take time and quite honestly that might be the best kind of rain.

Also, even though this probably belongs in another thread, Huirricane Katia makes a strong run at the coast and turns out at the last minute to fish. Watching each panel I was like... oh wow, its going to make land fall now... then it turned out. It has come wayyyy west, but this is for another thread.

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The drought in Texas is beyond words and trust me they need it a million times more than anywhere in the SE, but it doesnt really matter since none of us have to power to control the weather. As for 24" in LA most of that area is already watershed and will not have trouble with that kind of rainfall totals for the most part. Similar to the marshes in eastern NC they dont really "flood" from rain ever. However New Orleans could be in trouble as I am not sure if their pumps can handle that much rain

Droughts are just part of our changing climate. Droughts are becoming more and more frequent and more widespread. When we had our drought here. (I forget what year it was). It took almost 2 years to get caught back up. I imagine it will be the same with Texas. I just don't see Texas getting relief anytime soon. Not with that ridge. As far as New Orleans is concerned, yeah they don't need that much rain. Sad thing is that no matter what New Orleans will never be the same again.

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FFC has issued hydrologic outlook for all of North and North Central GA.

HYDROLOGIC OUTLOOK NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PEACHTREE CITY GA 1012 PM EDT THU SEP 1 2011

...HEAVY RAIN WITH MINOR FLOODING POSSIBLE EXPECTED MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY MAINLY OVER NORTH GEORGIA...

TROPICAL DEPRESSION 13 HAS FORMED OVER THE CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO THIS EVENING AND HAS THE POTENTIAL OF BECOMING A TROPICAL STORM BEFORE MAKING LANDFALL ON SATURDAY IN LOUISIANA. THE PRIMARY IMPACT SHOULD BE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RAIN AS THE STORM MOVES SLOWLY NORTHEAST.

GEORGIA WILL BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE STORM WHICH WILL ALLOW ABUNDANT TROPICAL MOISTURE TO FLOW INTO THE STATE. HEAVY RAIN BANDS MAY INTERACT WITH A COLD FRONT APPROACHING NORTH GEORGIA ON MONDAY AND CONTINUE INTO TUESDAY. THESE WEATHER FEATURES COMBINED WITH THE OROGRAPHIC LIFT IN THE MOUNTAINS WILL ENHANCE THE RAINFALL. AT THIS TIME WIDESPREAD AMOUNTS OF 2 TO 3 INCHES CAN BE EXPECTED WITH ISOLATED HIGHER AMOUNTS POSSIBLE.

SINCE A MODERATE TO SEVERE DROUGHT HAS BEEN PREVAILING OVER NORTH GEORGIA...THE SOILS ARE VERY DRY. INITIALLY...MOST OF THE RAIN WILL BE ABSORBED INTO THE SOILS. HOWEVER...THE PROLONGED DURATION OF HEAVY RAIN OVER ANY PARTICULAR AREA...ESPECIALLY URBAN AREAS... WILL CAUSE EXCESSIVE RUNOFF AND MINOR FLOODING OF STREAMS AND CREEKS.

RESIDENTS OF NORTH GEORGIA SHOULD MONITOR THE LATEST INFORMATION ON TROPICAL DEPRESSION 13 AND ITS POTENTIAL IMPACTS THIS HOLIDAY WEEKEND BY VISITING OUR WEBSITE AT WEATHER.GOV...AND CLICKING ON GEORGIA...OR BY TUNING INTO NOAA WEATHER RADIO OR OTHER LOCAL MEDIA FOR FURTHER DETAILS AND UPDATES.

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What we have coming next week could be absolutely amazing. TD 13, which should become TS Lee, should get picked up by the trough coming through. The big question is what happens after that. The GFS shows the storm stalling nearby, causing very heavy rainfall throughout the southeast. If this happens, it will be very interesting to watch what happens with Katia. Right now though, most of Georgia and the Carolinas could see up to 2-4 inches of rain with higher spots of up to 8-10 inches of rain. This could be one of the biggest rain events we have had in a very long time.

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the last run of GFS and ECMWF are bullish on a big time rain event in the Southeast. This event looks a little different from out usual incoming Gulf systems, in that it interacts strongly with a stalled front and is sandwhich between Katia to the East and the big western ridge, and the first front acts to pull it just enough inland to allow the remnants of the circulation to stall and really rain itself out over the Southeast. Normally, we get a good soaking and the front pushes everything through before too much rain can fall, but in this situation the models are starting to lean to big rain totals from a really stalled circulation over Alabama or maybe the Tennessee Valley. Its uncertain yet how the event unfolds but either way, we're getting some rain over a good chunk of the SE and its badly needed still west of the Coastal Plain. The GFS had 12" or more through next week, the Euro had slightly less but its flow and track looked very similar just lesser amounts (but still plenty of 7" amounts). Be interesting to see if the models keep this a slow mover...some area besides southern Lousiana is going to get hit hard with a flooding rain event Sunday through Tuesday,and right now I'm leaning in southeast Ark, most of Tennessee, northern Alabama and northern GA and eventually western NC. But there is still a sizeable chance the front pulls it more than the models are showing, which would lessen amounts in Ark and western TN especially. On the other hand if the system is slower to form then that would give the first front time to totally miss it, and then the circulation goes straight toward Ark and western TENN especially. As usual, too early to know, but when the GFS especially begins to stay consistent , its usually right in big rain events. 12" or more is not hard to do if the flow is right , as shown several times in TENN and GA the last few years, esp. in September.

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Robert, Looks like GSP is on the same page as you are. I am kinda worried about flooding in WNC because it has been so dry recently. If this verifies it is going to get ugly for some people up here.

.SHORT TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT/...

AS OF 3 AM FRIDAY...THE SHORT TERM FCST BEGINS AT 12 ON SATURDAY

WITH THE CLOSED UPPER LOW DEEPENING OVER THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO

JUST SOUTH OF LOUISIANA AND A FLAT UPPER RIDGE OVER THE EASTERN

CONUS. OVER THE NEXT 24 HRS OR SO...THIS RIDGE WEAKENS AS A NORTHERN

STREAM UPPER TROF APPROACHES FROM THE NW AND BEGINS TO INTERACT WITH

THE GOM CLOSED LOW. LATEST RUNS OF THE NAM AND GFS HAVE THE TROF

ROUGHLY IN PHASE WITH THE CLOSED LOW BY THE END OF THE PERIOD AT 12Z

ON MON.

ON SATURDAY...WEAKENING SFC HIGH PRESSURE WILL CAUSE BOUNDARY LAYER

FLOW TO BECOME SOUTHEASTERLY BY SAT EVENING AND REMAIN SOUTHERLY

THRU THE REMAINDER OF THE PERIOD. INCREASING UPSLOPE MOIST FLOW WILL

INCREASE POPS INTO SUN AS A STRONG FRONTAL BOUNDARY APPROACHES FROM

THE NW CREATING A BROAD REGION OF LOW LVL CONVERGENCE OVER THE AREA.

FOR SUNDAY THRU EARLY MONDAY...THE SFC FRONT WILL STRENGHTEN AND MOVE

CLOSER TO THE FCST AREA...BUT IS NOT EXPECTED TO PUSH THROUGH UNTIL

SOMETIME EARLY MONDAY INTO THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD. WITH THE NEARLY

STATIONARY TROPICAL LOW TO OUR SW AND THE FRONT TO OUR NW...A

SCENARIO IS SETTING UP THAT COULD PRODUCE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF

RAINFALL THRU THE REMAINDER OF THE PERIOD. LATEST MODEL SOUNDINGS

HAVE PWAT VALUES AROUND 2 INCHES FROM LATE SUN ONWARD WITH

MOIST...TROPICAL PROFILES. OBVIOUSLY...THE POTENTIAL FOR WIDESPREAD

FLOODING WILL HAVE TO BE WATCHED CAREFULLY OVER THE NEXT 24 TO 48HRS.&&

.LONG TERM /MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/...

AS OF 330 AM FRIDAY...THE MEDIUM RANGE FCST PICKS UP AT 12Z ON MONDAY

WITH THE UPPER TROF DIGGING DOWN OVER THE OHIO RIVER VALLEY/GREAT

LAKES REGION AS THE CLOSED UPPER LOW OVER THE NORTHERN GULF OF

MEXICO OPENS UP AND BEGINS TO BE ABSORBED BY THE NORTHERN STREAM

FLOW. THE LATEST LONG RANGE MODEL RUNS CONTINUE TO SUGGEST THAT THE

CLOSED UPPER LOW WILL MAINTAIN SOME DEGREE OF SOUTHERN STREAM

TROFINESS THRU DAY 7. AT THE SFC...WE CAN EXPECT HEAVY AND

PERSISTENT PERIODS OF RAINFALL AS A SIGNIFICANT FRONTAL BOUNDARY

MOVES INTO THE CWFA FROM THE NW. THE STRONG SFC HIGH BEHIND THE

FRONT IS EXPECTED TO KEEP THE SFC LOW OVER THE NORTHERN GULF OF

MEXICO/SOUTHERN SE CONUS FOR THRU AT LEAST DAY 5 AND LIKELY LONGER.

BEYOND THAT...DEGRADATION OF THE LOW IS UNCLEAR AT THIS POINT

WITH THE MODELS DIVERGING CONSIDERABLY. FOR THE SENSIBLE

FCST...STEADY RAINFALL THRU AT LEAST WED IS LOOKING MORE LIKELY. THE

LATEST RUN OF THE GFS DEEPENS TS KATIA FASTER AS IT APPROACHES THE

SE CONUS PRODUCING MORE WRAP AROUND MOISTURE THRU DAY 7 WHILE THE

OLDER RUN OF THE ECMWF PUSHES THE SFC RIDGE FARTHER EAST AND SOUTH

PUTTING THE FCST AREA IN DRIER NLY DOWNSLOPE FLOW BY MIDDAY THURS.

WILL GO WITH A BLEND OF THE 2 SOLUTIONS FOR DAYS 6 AND 7 FOR NOW AND

KEEP AT LEAST A CHANCE POP IN THE FCST. I EXPECT TEMPS TO REMAIN

BELOW CLIMATOLOGY THRU DAY 7

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Looks like there will be a lot of rain with this. I hope eastern NC doesn't get much, though. I don't really want anymore, either.

The way the pattern is setting up...Eastern North Carolina could lie in a relative minimum between TD 13 and Katia who will be making her closest approach to the US...If the moisture field strings out along the Appalachians as the GFS has suggested, then the potential is there for it to get really bad here along the escarpment.

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Message Date: Sep 02 2011 04:59:55 WSR-88D

KRAX WILL LIKELY BE OUT OF SERVICE UNTIL MONDAY...SEPTEMBER 5TH. PARTS A RE ON ORDER.

ADJACENT WSR-88D/S INCLUDE...KFCX...KLTX...KAKQ...KMHX...KGSP... KC AE

Are they using horseback to ship the parts? :P

Steamship I think. Anyway this radar has crashed more times than Billy Joel after a night at the bar. It has been ridiculous lately.

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First off, shouldn't the title of this thread be changed to TD 13?

Also. me like:

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You and I both! I'm starting to get excited about this one, we could have a long drawn out rain event. I'm hoping the combination of the low, the surface front, and the mountains, will bring us monsoon rains here in North Georgia.

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WHOA NELLY!!!...and believe it or not, the core of the system is just coming through WNC at 144 hours...

:lol: over 12" near mby. lol - what i would give for that to verify :devilsmiley: of course we all saw what happened to irene a few days before it was supposed to hit the se so i am not holding my breath.

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