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Jan/Feb 90 was the highest AO/NAO ever I think other than Jan/Feb 1989. I still think its the record now though 2018 or 2020 may have surpassed it. In general there's been tendencies near the solar max if you have a persistently -AO/NAO in Nov/Dec it can be a problematic issue in Jan/Feb where it swings wildly to be strongly positive. We saw this a bit in 2000-01 too, the AO remained negative in Jan/Feb but the NAO went significantly positive the remainder of the winter.

60 here and the Yellow Jackets are back out in full force trying to get a taste of this delicious East Rock Brewing Oktoberfest..

Think you meant December.

Credit to Chris and Don for bringing this strong correlation to the board’s attention: Whether Dec snow at NYC is 3”+ has been a good indicator of how Jan+ has done since 1980-1: -a whopping 23 of 28 (82%) Dec’s with <3” had <22” Jan+ -but only 4 of 17 (24%) Dec’s with 3”+ had <22” Jan+ So, watch Dec NYC snow closely! Correlation didn’t work before 1980. Anyone know why? @donsutherland1@bluewave

Last October was the 3rd driest on record. This October was the 10th wettest on record with 4.82" for the month. Top 10 Wettest Octobers: 1. 7.08" - 1919 2. 6.35" - 1941 3. 6.25" - 1986 4. 5.98" - 1990 5. 5.74" - 2013 6. 5.65" - 1995 7. 5.54" - 1983 8. 5.46" - 1926 9. 4.99" - 2001 10. 4.82" - 2025

It was a cool, dry October for the Triad. Highest temp: 80 Lowest temp: 37 Coldest High temp: 49 Warmest Low temp: 63 Rainfall: 1.67”, 1.33 below normal Average temp: 59.3, .9 degrees below normal

EURO also has snow

The damage in this overhead imagery is pretty mind boggling.

Up to 62 but been more clouds and down to 57. Tomorrow looks stunning for early Nov.

Saw some graupel in Rock Falls an hour ago or so. First winter precip on the books.

Well people that don’t care about their lawn and landscaping it’s not a problem. But for the vast majority that do .. it’s a major issue

57 degrees on a gorgeous Saturday afternoon. Grass is looking amazing after all the rain Thursday.

Had 5 groups all night. Lots of leftovers this lol

In Hubbardston? We’re talking just flakes…not accums. It’s definitely usually Oct or early Nov.

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For me, the 80s averaged more snow than the 90s, and people always say the 80s sucked. The 80s were more consistent, even if that meant a bit below average, whereas the 90s had 2 boom years and several well below average.

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With a generally quiet subtropical jet, I suspect that any large snowstorms are more likely to be of the Miller B variety. Those typically favor the northern Mid-Atlantic/New England or New England.

Meh. A bit of a crap shoot. I don’t really count on seeing flakes until after Thanksgiving. If it happens, great.

Not last night-it was fine all the way. However walking after the game last night had roaring winds in the hood.

14-15 had a cold November, though. It was more like December was the outlier warm month. I think that had to be 90-91. That was a wall-to-wall warm winter, which continued into spring and summer. Almost like a 11-12 redux.

baseball tryouts for travel next year was today, despite the winds and off and on clouds, it definitely felt warmer than expected for November 1st. Even last night with trick or treat, the air just didn't have that 'bite' to it. I hope it isn't another one of those seasons that it never gets cold enough for it to snow and stay snow....55° currently

NYC did great 2000 through 2018.

Wasn't 89/90 record warmth in January and February? That year was the opposite of 2014/2015 w/r/t the complete patter flip. There was another winter after that in the early 90s i remember wearing short sleeves in February to school. Last year was a great example of a ton of bad luck. The Delmarva area and my old vacation spot of ocean city maryland are loving the past few years! Got to head south for snow. 96/97 through 99/00 were bad patterns. All in all after personally living through both periods what we have experienced is similar, which is why I am not worried yet. Lol if this period surpasses 30 years I will worry.