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While I hope to be wrong, I agree. We're investing a lot of hope in an early SSWE and the past 10 years have largely been putrid for snow lovers in this subforum.

Midnight low of 27, 35 currently.

PennDOT ready for winter with full snowplow crew in Susquehanna Valley No more Penndot getting caught with their pants down. https://www.wgal.com/article/penndot-ready-for-winter-with-full-snowplow-crew-susquehanna-valley/69500958?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&fbclid=IwY2xjawONJORleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEe7VAPi-k1BASQz1jPMyIBVOYQqCI-9LDVpYrlEkbdz51lBUJeOZQmV2p7RHE_aem_8AcR4psaxjaZQnbvNVT7_g&brid=u2tOX6_dCAPwrZFoy4c0Jg

Simon Lee has been saying 1996-97 is a good stratospheric analog for over a month now. It’s not like some twitterologist is saying this either. He’s one of the foremost authorities on the stratosphere, has written many published papers on it

THIS WEEK IN WEATHER-- 20 NOV 2025 - yes the cold and snow patterns are coming but be patient ! https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FlgrsqBsyW5I%3Ffbclid%3DIwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAYnJpZBExWktKNUZ2Sk1LZ2s1ZHZRUXNydGMGYXBwX2lkEDIyMjAzOTE3ODgyMDA4OTIAAR4EWCzVr7PgkfJlfGjxdbb6_R0iRskzh8J2-l-_3BUwDdUVWEYTckcpUPVFoQ_aem_eDM-N5qwLLLZU3BDKgpagQ%26brid%3DBjehTrnhpt46AE5ySmOg8Q&h=AT3alzLBB1HJtYSvIH_wH3RhuVpTCgZ_PF25L_unhBpZPeY0jcZ76jospygXvghr7RNO9BBwdTquu4K2hla88s01_-STZ3uEsq8sFetumaOFLDBEZKBh_DkzuTTnz1nF2HwWlsLtZuXGKw&__tn__=-UK-R&c[0]=AT2ydP5eX9OdMYbIFRajuZJ519NwRNgJ_zfnavS3uhFLvjd14l4fMVU9OSL_mlZsT95kr_y5HAC7PMQi5JcirYihmzItSV_LyMCsSfkops6CI4S97HcftlQnxMsdcGyDpBZ6UbxKnGvs4f1-NgHaHMD8tu2rUu4jBeVt9T_WJd336f1zsIKkj-rd31-FriL_4Eo10G1tauvThAS7Ks6nOb_nZWs9Fg

Amazing how fast the models will switch at that range. Can't put any stock in a 2-week model run

He has spoken.

CEF.....45 to 55 -1F for met winter

Its been one of the most normal falls I can remember in ages. If we get some snow and cold in December at some point we will be fine. I think its gonna be a more normal winter. I'm so glad we really haven't had the screaming southeastern.

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Down to 20F so far in E CT, Yawgoo Valley making snow?

One thing that western jog right before landfall seems to have done is to have drug the eyewall and RMW over a larger area of coastline because though the eye itself remained just offshore longer, the eyewall was already onshore. For a system with a tight inner core like Melissa had, there is a much larger area of extreme-unprecedented wind damage than would otherwise be expected given the small RMW at the time of landfall

Mammoth is getting hit by even more snow - this was definitely NOT in the forecast tonight! They have 3-4 inches MORE fresh snow since 6pm and MORE on the way overnight! They just opened today! Even the Village level got hit! https://www.mammothmountain.com/on-the-mountain/mammoth-webcam/the-village Woolly Lot needs a Plow!!!! https://www.mammothmountain.com/on-the-mountain/mammoth-webcam/woolly-cam That snow is blowing in the Lights at the Main Lodge! https://www.mammothmountain.com/on-the-mountain/mammoth-webcam/main-lodge

Ensembles suggest keeping expectations in check through begging of December.

Steady at 28. Things continue to die

28.9⁰ here now. It's been below freezing since 7pm, but flatlined at 29⁰ for the past 2 hours. Stations just to my south are running 26 - 27⁰ and stations just to my north are running 31 - 34 (with a few higher). Just north of that is a lot of relatively warm water.

Bullseye! https://x.com/wfaaweather/status/1991697682084122874?t=kJ5x6yrdEHdWtt8gWCUCJw&s=19 This was also the wettest November day on record for DFW with 3.92" of rain today.

lol caps are like - oh wait, maybe we should score more goals

I think with terrible models have been, no one should get excited in terms of snow until there is model consensus for snow in their backyard within the 2-3 day window.

Do not submit your accumulations with the inches (") symbol. It converts the entry from a number to plain text in the Google Sheet. This then breaks the "sum" formula adding up the totals.

Of course . It has been rough.

Last Feb there was a storm that looked like a KU for the I95 5 days out, then it got suppressed to coastal virginia/NC lol. You're dead on with the "cutter or suppressed" track stuff, even though people here give you shit for it. It never works for philly to nyc anymore.

You nailed it! Fairfield Inn & Suites by Marriott Somerset.

It's premature to panic, but I feel the angst. We're coming up on 5 years since the last good snow event in SENY through NNJ. I can't speak for other areas, but that's a rough stretch. And I can understand why some people would feel antsy about a recurrent shit winter pattern.