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HH GEFS kinds likes it lol

The HRRR was a few degrees too warm in Orange and Putnam. A coating of snow down to nearly river level with accumulations increasingly quickly with elevation. Turned into a snowy evening with snow mixing in at 500ft in Morris County right now. The less snowy NAM runs appeared to do better than the HRRR or RGEM which showed mostly rain until well NW. Actually the ECMWF and GFS did pretty good with the lower level temp profile too I think.

18z gefs mean is east with it like the op.

Guess that’s a decent sign. I saw the Ukie earlier and thought it could blow it up a little, but it didn’t

Next time you take a screenshot can you make the L and pressure number larger? Thx in advance.

If you want some tiebreakers, the 12z ggem, 12z ukie, and 18z rgem all held it back over the Great Lakes as well.

Balmy 50F

Thanks Eyewall. It's snowing like crazy now. And it's a tad breezy.

Just like normal... it will be in Richmond before we know it

Down to 37.4/34.1 at 5:30, wind WSW at 7 gusting to 16 mph. Still a solid 2" on south facing to 4" in shaded areas OTG.

The question becomes. Is one more right than the other, and by how much.

I've always agreed with all of this. I just don't see it as settling the main question

I'm at the reststop a few miles north of 84 on the Thruway. A little slush in the parking lot, but highway still wet. Nice to see it snowing though. Saw a little white rain mix not too many miles west of the river, then to very wet snow north of Suffern. Snowing nice here and close to freezing. It went from 50 in lower Westchester to 43 at the TZ. This would have been a fun ride without the traffic in the Bronx and lower WC.

Thats true he should change it to Snowfall . Light to moderate possible.

Rain has switched over to snow in Winsted 36°

Defintely

How do you know ? Its still a few days away.

Weatherbell needs to get its act together but @Weather Willis on point!!

Hoping tomorrow pans out here. Sat seems to keep trending more south and weaker each run. At least on gfs.

The title of this thread says snowstorm

Lake effect snow warning for tomorrow

This is due to the overall climate warming since the 1970s and not an expansion of UHI. Even cooler surrounding areas are wall to wall AC usage now from May to September when they weren’t in the past. The warming in rural, suburban, and urban areas has been proportional.

Sure is pretty up here!

Bullshit. I was born and raised in Queens. My parents are now wall to wall AC from May thru Sept. Something that never happened before. The place just doesnt cool off at night anymore

We will accept our downsloping snow shower in Frederick and we will like it.