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But I thought doom memes of Santa with fire meant Christmas was certain to be super warm for all?

Today’s GEFS is progging ~-1.7 PNA for Dec as a whole. That would be ~5th strongest -PNA since 1950. But what were similarly strong -PNA Dec followed by in Jan since 1984-5 during -ENSO? 1984-5: from -1.6 to +1.6 2008-9: from -1.4 to +0.6 2010-1: from -1.8 to +1.3 2021-2: from -2.6 to +1.0 All 4 of these Januaries were cold in the E US.

Gfs is one constipated mess right after Christmas.

merry mixmas has a nice ring to it

And it begins . More fun as analog agrees. We got good benefit out of this last one. That night in teens and sustained 20 gusting 35 just after dark was real wind chill. Wakes one up

Hi-res Canadian flips us over to a brief period of heavy snow on Thursday depositing a quick 2-3". Some other models have hinted at a quick switch to snow before ending as well. Something to watch just for fun.

Next Week we will have blocking with strong HP in southeast Canada - the position of the HP and strength will determine how far south and west this cold enough air will spread and any disturbance that runs into it could cause frozen precip in the cold enough regions - this has been showing up on various models for days now

Ggem says mix for us.

GFS says Merry Christmas for NYC lol

GFS says Merry Christmas for y'all lol

Both sets of maps are horribly wrong for Hickory and Catawba County. Definitely no measurable snow has accumulated in our county, not even a single trace, much less multiple instances. I don’t know where those numbers are coming from. Regardless, I remember when we used to measure snowfall in inches, not traces. How many traces make an inch? Three? Twelve? 5280?

If you scroll the last few pages there is the typical doom and gloom that we just got lucky with the last event and more cutters to come! People love winter so much, then enjoy what you have instead of what's on a model run 10 days away.

Yesterday I was up at Bolton Valley for some lift-served skiing with a couple of colleagues who were in town for work, and that was a nice change of pace after several days in a row of touring. Apparently Bolton is doing $50 lift tickets on Mondays, so that’s a nice incentive for folks who don’t have season’s passes. Indeed the mountain was fairly quiet with a relatively small number of visitors, so I can see why the discounted tickets make sense. It was fairly cold, with temperatures probably in the upper single digits F at Village elevations, and they must have been near zero F up at the summits. I knew from the temperatures and blustery conditions in the valleys that it was probably a day I wouldn’t have gone out for lift-served skiing, but having my colleagues heading out for turns was enough to tip that balance in favor of a visit. The resort was running both the Vista Quad and the Wilderness Chair, as well as the lower mountain lifts, so they had quite a solid amount of terrain open now that they are operating during the midweek periods. Conditions were decent, with manmade snow on the main routes of Vista Peak, and all natural snow over at Wilderness. Both areas saw substantial weekend skier traffic, and you could tell the snow had seen some wear and tear. There were some slick spots on the manmade surfaces, and some areas of imperfect coverage on the natural snow terrain at Wilderness. This has obviously been a strong early season for snowfall and natural snowpack, but natural snow depths still aren’t quite at the level yet where coverage will really remain fully pristine on steep, ungroomed slopes. The temperatures were also cold enough that the groomed skiing was a bit slow It would be nice to get back up into the 20s F, and it seems like the coldest weather has passed and we’ll be warmer for the rest of the midweek period.

Off topic, but not sure where to post the news, that a move is underway to dismantle NCAR! The critical role NCAR plays in vital / critical research associated with climate assessment and all types of hazardous weather is huge.

Courtesy of Thomas Mabry

2000-01 was the most disappointing in my lifetime. I know this one technically ended with above average snowfall, but the epic snow bust in early March left a very sour taste. Oh what could have been if the forecast had even come close to verifying.

Well yea. You said “many” predicted a warm start so who is “many”?

Can’t have cliff jumping until 21 December, that’s the law in here

Who is upset? People are talking about the pattern to come, not the past month.

39.8 here for a high. Currently 26.8.

30.5 after a pleasant high of 52

So odds are highest in general for January being above average given it is the coldest month of the year climo wise.

People on here never cease to amaze. Month to date I'm running about -7 on the lows and -9 on the highs. Does it need to snow every 3 days or something? It's been plenty cold and there's snow on the ground. That's what you get in the metro in December, we're not in the northern Rockies.

With the back and forth between last rites and "just wait it out" in the ENSO thread you'd expect to see some cliff jumping here.

Not a lot going on in the weather world