ORH_wxman Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 When you actually mention those things there's no need to say "should I mention" because you actually did mention it. The comical/sad part is you had those references at your fingertips from 1-2 years ago. If you'd just made the last point an hour ago a lot of this would have been moot but I'm sure this was all fun for Kev. Someone asked me the other night how I remembered dates and numbers well....and I said I would get made fun of for remembering them....they couldn't understand. Well the bolded is an example for that poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Steve, the NAM is definitely closer to something more....but still, pull up the h7 map, you probably won't find anything over 20 knots form the east....which is pretty weak for a coastal. If we get it captured sooner and wrapped up a bit, then we'll see all of those parameters increase. Yea that is a seven map, bout thirty but I hear ya, got to hope some model is correct 24 out, what a clusterfook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 The second low stems from an inverted trough. However, this inv trough actually develops into a center of low pressure, both with accompanying mid level centers. The thing is, it still has isobars bowing back towards the ULL, so it does hang on to some inv trough characteristics. It has similarities to both. 100% agree. But it isn't a norlund I don't believe by strict definition. Inverted trough attached to a low, sure. To what degree we don't know yet. The GFS ENS pretty clearly show the focus is along that trough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Someone asked me the other night how I remembered dates and numbers well....and I said I would get made fun of for remembering them....they couldn't understand. Well the bolded is an example for that poster. Dude you are amazing and that is a talent all of us would pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpickett79 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 When you actually mention those things there's no need to say "should I mention" because you actually did mention it. The comical part is you had those references at your fingertips from 1-2 years ago. If you'd just made the last point an hour ago a lot of this would have been moot but I'm sure this was all fun for Kev. Maybe if you'd said what you said earlier directly to Kev instead of him running around saying it's 100% the trough there would have been more clarity. we have bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Yea that is a seven map, bout thirty but I hear ya, got to hope some model is correct 24 out, what a clusterfook I think you posted an 850mb map looking that the heights....those would be way too low to be a 700mb map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 When you actually mention those things there's no need to say "should I mention" because you actually did mention it. The comical part is you had those references at your fingertips from 1-2 years ago. If you'd just made the last point an hour ago a lot of this would have been moot but I'm sure this was all fun for Kev. Maybe if you'd said what you said earlier directly to Kev instead of him running around saying it's 100% the trough there would have been more clarity. Let's not get nasty. Let's just enjoy what transpires the next couple days. It's too bad that personal attacks need to tarnish interesting conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I think you posted an 850mb map looking that the heights....those would be way too low to be a 700mb map. Hey do me a favor forget that I did this LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Someone asked me the other night how I remembered dates and numbers well....and I said I would get made fun of for remembering them....they couldn't understand. Well the bolded is an example for that poster. When you've got someone deliberately trying to aggravate others for personal enjoyment and to get a reaction this is what happens. Trolling so to speak. Eventually it will drive a response when normally it would never occur. Understood on the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpickett79 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 anyone else notice...i.e look at the norlun getting going by portland to lewiston maine , now. http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.php?product=NCR&rid=gyx&loop=yes anyone with the meso models up notice if they had this feature. and this maine event could probably catch more by suprise if it goes to town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 God this incessant b**ch session about an inverted trough quasi ccb is painful. Just ****ing drop it already. Man up. It's going to snow, and potentially snow a lot in SE MA/ CC come Saturday night/ Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 God this incessant b**ch session about an inverted trough quasi ccb is painful. Just ****ing drop it already. Man up. It's going to snow, and potentially snow a lot in SE MA/ CC come Saturday night/ Sunday. Thumbs up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 100% agree. But it isn't a norlund I don't believe by strict definition. Inverted trough attached to a low, sure. To what degree we don't know yet. The GFS ENS pretty clearly show the focus is along that trough. It's all good. I think it has characteristics of both. Besides...I don't care how it gives me snow..as long as it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Let's not get nasty. Let's just enjoy what transpires the next couple days. It's too bad that personal attacks need to tarnish interesting conversation. Deliberate trolling shouldn't be tolerated whether I do it or anyone else. Eventually it drives a response and it did from me. No excuse it shouldn' t have happened. My bad. I shouldn't have snapped at Will. -- Scott gives the best explanation going on what's transpiring potentially now it's time for Dr. No to give the final say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 God this incessant b**ch session about an inverted trough quasi ccb is painful. Just ****ing drop it already. Man up. It's going to snow, and potentially snow a lot in SE MA/ CC come Saturday night/ Sunday. Looks like discussion to me, man this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 When you've got someone deliberately trying to aggravate others for personal enjoyment and to get a reaction this is what happens. Trolling so to speak. Eventually it will drive a response when normally it would never occur. Understood on the rest. My goal wasn't to get into a flame war....it just derails threads. I think for people to understand at what I was saying about the inverted trough....take a look at the NAM....it has a 980s low centered just south of Block Island....yet the precip barely gets W of an ORH//IJD line....normally you would have precip well west of there on a low centered jst S of block island. Its the lack of mid-level inflow that is confining the precip to a smaller area in E and SE SNE focused on the inverted trough or the isobar weakness. There is definitely some larger scale synoptic lift going on there, but its focused in a narrower area than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinch1989 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 It needs to cool faster please. Light snow now, soon to be moderate if not heavy once the 30+ dBZ gets here, but nothing is sticking. That sun earlier killed us and it couldn't be starting on the wet ground at a worse time. Terrible. Look at the traffic cams to see what is coming your way...it will cheer you up http://www.ct.gov/do...a=2354&Q=290242 Complete snow cover in norwalk, even the main roads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I was just discussing an inverted trough nothing more/nothing less. Not sure why anyone got panties bunched..but anyway... I'm liking the looks of that radar to our SW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 well this did not take long moderate snow sticking to all surfaces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 My goal wasn't to get into a flame war....it just derails threads. I think for people to understand at what I was saying about the inverted trough....take a look at the NAM....it has a 980s low centered just south of Block Island....yet the precip barely gets W of an ORH//IJD line....normally you would have precip well west of there on a low centered jst S of block island. Its the lack of mid-level inflow that is confining the precip to a smaller area in E and SE SNE focused on the inverted trough or the isobar weakness. There is definitely some larger scale synoptic lift going on there, but its focused in a narrower area than usual. Despite some dick heads bitchin I learned a great deal from this discussion, thank you for taking the time to differentiate. appreciate it, OK back to talking about the pedestrian whoppee 2-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbosch Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Look at the traffic cams to see what is coming your way...it will cheer you up http://www.ct.gov/do...a=2354&Q=290242 Complete snow cover in norwalk, even the main roads Thank you, and as I read this here we go! SN. Sticking to all surfaces. Quickly, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monroe Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Covered again here - 31 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Guy on channel 7 talking about a wave of low pressure, several inches of snow over all of the area from Boston to PVD and SE. he seemed a little bullish for the weekend, he has 3-6 for most of central and western mass and then several inches for se mass sat night and a few inches on a line from boston to worc to hartford. That would give southern worc county up to 10 inches? That sound right Will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 I was just discussing an inverted trough nothing more/nothing less. Not sure why anyone got panties bunched..but anyway... I'm liking the looks of that radar to our SW Today's event is the inverted trough. The Saturday Night/Sunday deal is both. What's the 12z Euro show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Euro seems like it wants to make things a little more interesting through hr 36. PV a little further south and now sn back into NYC at hr 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Snow 23.1/16 headed to MD Good luck--hope to see some good things for Sat/Sunday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 My goal wasn't to get into a flame war....it just derails threads. I think for people to understand at what I was saying about the inverted trough....take a look at the NAM....it has a 980s low centered just south of Block Island....yet the precip barely gets W of an ORH//IJD line....normally you would have precip well west of there on a low centered jst S of block island. Its the lack of mid-level inflow that is confining the precip to a smaller area in E and SE SNE focused on the inverted trough or the isobar weakness. There is definitely some larger scale synoptic lift going on there, but its focused in a narrower area than usual. Definitely. If the inflow at H7 was stronger than 20 knots as you said it was, then there would be more precipitation extending from the center of the LP because more Atlantic moisture would get involved. Maybe we can beef this up during the day...still...I'm thinking 2-4" total for mby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Euro gives CC advisory snow from the 2nd low it looks like....lighter snows for the rest of the area.You could include over to S RI as part of the advisory snows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Flurries have commenced in Amherst. 29/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpickett79 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I was just discussing an inverted trough nothing more/nothing less. Not sure why anyone got panties bunched..but anyway... I'm liking the looks of that radar to our SW what time do you think it reaches you? it slow bleeding type movement makes it a tuff call. i would say 5-7pm. i think besides our inverted trough swinging thru SNE today.....that the N shore of ma SE NH and SW Maine could have a Norlun get going this afternoon/ evening. i wouldn't bet big on this but i am intrigued MM5 and nam don't have it....so the radar may probably just die down or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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