SnowenOutThere Posted Sunday at 05:51 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:51 PM 29 minutes ago, Kmlwx said: Not saying it will happen, but every now and then a lower parameter day will surprise and out perform the prior day. Always fun because it just goes to prove microscale stuff sometimes just says F known science and does its own thing! I want to clarify, it’s not that parameters are even bad. It’s more so a “meh” environment compared to the powderkeg yesterday was. Do agree that outflow boundaries could help out too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted Sunday at 08:16 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:16 PM 2 hours ago, Kmlwx said: Not saying it will happen, but every now and then a lower parameter day will surprise and out perform the prior day. Always fun because it just goes to prove microscale stuff sometimes just says F known science and does its own thing! This evening has all the hallmarks of an overperformer for a select few: Less of a cap at 700 mb Multiple remnant boundaries Pooling of low level moisture (dews have come back up a few degrees) Slightly better shear aloft per SPC meso analysis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frd Posted Sunday at 09:44 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:44 PM Interesting cell in SW De. Moving North at 15 mph. Severe Weather Statement National Weather Service Mount Holly NJ 526 PM EDT Sun Jul 5 2026 DEC001-005-052200- /O.CON.KPHI.SV.W.0146.000000T0000Z-260705T2200Z/ Sussex DE-Kent DE- 526 PM EDT Sun Jul 5 2026 ...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 600 PM EDT FOR NORTHWESTERN SUSSEX AND SOUTHWESTERN KENT COUNTIES... At 526 PM EDT, a severe thunderstorm was located near Andrewsville, or 14 miles northwest of Georgetown, moving north at 15 mph. HAZARD...60 mph wind gusts and penny size hail. SOURCE...Radar indicated. IMPACT...Damage to roofs, siding, trees, and power lines is possible. Locations impacted include... Milford, Harrington, Bridgeville, Andrewsville, Greenwood, Houston, and Farmington. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... For your protection move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a building. To report severe weather contact your nearest law enforcement agency. They will send your report to the National Weather Service office in Mount Holly NJ. Torrential rainfall is occurring with this storm, and may lead to flash flooding. Do not drive your vehicle through flooded roadways. && LAT...LON 3874 7547 3873 7570 3898 7573 3896 7545 TIME...MOT...LOC 2126Z 176DEG 13KT 3881 7560 HAIL THREAT...RADAR INDICATED MAX HAIL SIZE...0.75 IN WIND THREAT...RADAR INDICATED MAX WIND GUST...60 MPH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted Sunday at 10:48 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:48 PM STW posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpeast Posted Sunday at 11:03 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:03 PM Seeing outflow boundaries from the south and NE, hoping they collide over mby to give me much needed rains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSN+ Posted yesterday at 12:20 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:20 AM Can’t buy a break around here. Missed yesterdays rain and missing everything around my by 2-3 miles. 0” here 3 miles away 1.8” in last hour lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex95 Posted yesterday at 02:31 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:31 AM 11 hours ago, Kmlwx said: Really interesting storm movement yesterday too! When you have light/weak winds 500 mb and below, chaotic storm motion is common. Mesoscale factors such as storm rotation, outflow boundaries, and cell back-building (discrete propagation) can take front and center, so you get all sorts of odd storm motion. This is basically what you see almost every day in the summer in the Southeast and Gulf Coast states! We saw the same thing today, esp. w/ that svr storm W of Columbia. Hardly moved at first and then started to drift/build S. I attached a short loop of the W of Columbia svr storm. Also, the CG LTG was intense w/ this storm (plot attached). I think this storm was briefly a supercell before it gusted out. It split as well, indicating rotation. See the storm to its N moving NE fairly quickly? That's a left (anticyclonic) supercell split! You can tell b/c of it flared look NW to SE yet moving NE. When a supercell splits, the mesocycylonic split slows down and turns more to the right, while the anticyclonic split accelerates and moves more to the left (in the Northern Hemisphere). 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex95 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Pasadena MD 7/5. Listen w/ headphones/earbuds for the full effect!https://www.facebook.com/reel/2524504421303837 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted 19 hours ago Author Share Posted 19 hours ago @vortex95 - It sure looked like it had a bit of the "supercellular look" looking west from Odenton. Sadly didn't get any pictures - heck of a storm once it got to Odenton, though. Some shutters were torn off the condo building! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Hmmm... its way out there... but interesting... Day 4-8 Convective Outlook NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 0400 AM CDT Mon Jul 06 2026 Valid 091200Z - 141200Z ...DISCUSSION... Medium-range model output continues to indicate the evolution of an increasingly prominent mid/upper high across the lower Colorado Valley and Plateau late this week into next weekend, which may continue expanding and encompassing a significant portion of the interior U.S. by early next week. How far north and northeast this builds remains unclear; however, a plume of very warm elevated mixed layer air advecting on strengthening flow around the northern through northeastern periphery of this anticyclonic regime will contribute to an environment conditionally conducive to organized severe thunderstorm development. It appears that this could focus anywhere from the central Canadian/U.S. border vicinity through the Great Lakes into the Northeast. By early next week (the Day 8-9 time frame), in particular, at least some output suggests that a vigorous short wave trough rounding the ridge may be accompanied by strong cyclogenesis, which could promote widespread strong to severe thunderstorm development across parts of New England into northern Mid Atlantic. Given the uncertainties associated with the extended time frame and model spread/discrepancies, severe weather probabilities remain less than 15 percent for this period, but it is possible that this could change sometime in later outlook updates for this period. ..Kerr.. 07/06/2026 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 14 hours ago, vortex95 said: When you have light/weak winds 500 mb and below, chaotic storm motion is common. Mesoscale factors such as storm rotation, outflow boundaries, and cell back-building (discrete propagation) can take front and center, so you get all sorts of odd storm motion. This is basically what you see almost every day in the summer in the Southeast and Gulf Coast states! We saw the same thing today, esp. w/ that svr storm W of Columbia. Hardly moved at first and then started to drift/build S. I attached a short loop of the W of Columbia svr storm. Also, the CG LTG was intense w/ this storm (plot attached). I think this storm was briefly a supercell before it gusted out. It split as well, indicating rotation. See the storm to its N moving NE fairly quickly? That's a left (anticyclonic) supercell split! You can tell b/c of it flared look NW to SE yet moving NE. When a supercell splits, the mesocycylonic split slows down and turns more to the right, while the anticyclonic split accelerates and moves more to the left (in the Northern Hemisphere). Agree that it could’ve been supercellular. The interesting thing I saw with the hodographs for yesterday is how the low level winds did show some shear, while of course there was no upper level support. Would make sense you get storms that rotate a bit at the low level then build up and fall down once they reach the high level without any wind shear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailylurker Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago The sun has been out for the past 30 minutes and the temps and wind have definitely increased. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frd Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 27 minutes ago, dailylurker said: The sun has been out for the past 30 minutes and the temps and wind have definitely increased. Its a swamp out there. The NW flow pattern seems to be gone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlizzardNole Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago This FFW from NE VA shows how crazy heavy these storms can be when they sit over one area! Doppler radar indicated thunderstorms producing heavy rain across the warned area. Between 1 and 1.5 inches of rain have fallen. The expected rainfall rate is 3 to 5 inches in 1 hour. Additional rainfall amounts of 2 to 4 inches are possible in the warned area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex95 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 11 hours ago, SnowenOutThere said: Agree that it could’ve been supercellular. The interesting thing I saw with the hodographs for yesterday is how the low level winds did show some shear, while of course there was no upper level support. Would make sense you get storms that rotate a bit at the low level then build up and fall down once they reach the high level without any wind shear. Good info. In weak flow when there is lots of storms firing and chaotic, the sheer number of mesoscale factors going at once inevitably leads to a very local environment that can support a supercell for a short time. FL this time of year, all those storms that fire daily, those isolated wind or tornado events you see, are due to the numerous storm interactions. But it's impossible to fcst this b/c such small-scale factors can not be accounted for in the models. It's so conditional and variable! In certain cases, you can get an intense tornado in wind profile that doesn't look conducive at all. This occurs most often when you have huge amounts of CAPE (5000+) and a weak front or boundary present. A storm can fire and if it deviates a lot (more than 90 deg) from the environmental wind flow by virtue of back-building along the front/boundary, it can become a strong supercell. So even though the environmental helicity is low, the storm-relative helicity is large, and an intense tornado can result. The two most striking examples of this was the Plainfield IL Aug 28, 1990 and Jarrell TX May 27, 1997 events. Both devastating F5s and the storms deviated a very hard right w/ CAPE ~7000 present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex95 Posted 35 minutes ago Share Posted 35 minutes ago 16 hours ago, yoda said: Hmmm... its way out there... but interesting... Day 4-8 Convective Outlook NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 0400 AM CDT Mon Jul 06 2026 Valid 091200Z - 141200Z ...DISCUSSION... Medium-range model output continues to indicate the evolution of an increasingly prominent mid/upper high across the lower Colorado Valley and Plateau late this week into next weekend, which may continue expanding and encompassing a significant portion of the interior U.S. by early next week. How far north and northeast this builds remains unclear; however, a plume of very warm elevated mixed layer air advecting on strengthening flow around the northern through northeastern periphery of this anticyclonic regime will contribute to an environment conditionally conducive to organized severe thunderstorm development. It appears that this could focus anywhere from the central Canadian/U.S. border vicinity through the Great Lakes into the Northeast. By early next week (the Day 8-9 time frame), in particular, at least some output suggests that a vigorous short wave trough rounding the ridge may be accompanied by strong cyclogenesis, which could promote widespread strong to severe thunderstorm development across parts of New England into northern Mid Atlantic. Given the uncertainties associated with the extended time frame and model spread/discrepancies, severe weather probabilities remain less than 15 percent for this period, but it is possible that this could change sometime in later outlook updates for this period. ..Kerr.. 07/06/2026 Looks like we stay in semi-active to active period for the region UFN. Showers and tstms every day in some form in at least parts of region thru Sat and maybe Sun. GFS and ECMWF are a lot different for Sun. The GFS has a much stronger trough at 500 and actually develops a small nor'easter offshore. ECMWF nothing at all. The GFS solution suggests a lot of rain. Svr risk for the region highly dependent on where the sfc low tracks. Longer-range, it appears the mean trough position will remain in place in the E, so should be decent chances for some sig tstm events. Last July was quite good, but ugh, next to nothing in Aug, and quite cool much of the time. Actually had some cold air damning a few times IIRC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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