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Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26


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mt holly not as bullish as they were ; dropped amounts 2-4 and believe south of 95 switches to rain; sleet up to i 80, then they admit warm layer isn't that deep and could be overcome by intense snows....something we have tended to discount..... 

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Just now, MJO812 said:

Steve D likes 8-16 inches for NYC and LI and 12-18 for north of NYC  and 6-12 inches south of NYC 

He thinks the sleet line on the Nam is wrong. 

Ive been rooting for the 557ww model. Last 3 days it has kept most of nyc snow along with the navgem models. 

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1 minute ago, psv88 said:

Canadian looks great! 

Incredible trends tonight, I’m really starting to get curious of the sleet line hitting the Bronx and dropping south rrfs hrrr and rap have been doing it continuously 

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Just now, nycsnow said:

Incredible trends tonight, I’m really starting to get curious of the sleet line hitting the Bronx and dropping south rrfs hrrr and rap have been doing it continuously 

Ill be here waiting on it.. trust me it might be epic around these parts if it never mixes. At the rates/ratios. It might be crazy for a while.

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3 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

Yes. That's correct. From Pivotal Weather:

ECMWF, UKMET, and Environment Canada models keep track of precipitation type in a precise way as the model integrates, so we know how exactly much precipitation falls in the form of snow (at least, based on the model’s internal diagnostics). This eliminates any concern about including sleet, graupel, or rain when we compute snowfall for those models.

https://home.pivotalweather.com/guides/snowfall

This is questionable. See DCA as an example below. At 18z Sun the 18z UKMET shows 7.7" snow accumulation. The ptype is sleet and the sleet line has cleanly crossed the area. By 21z the sleet line has crossed into PA indicating the line was advancing steadily northward. Yet at 27hr the UK snow total on Pivotal increases to 8.9" for DCA and then 10.3", and 10.4" at 30hr and 33hr. Based on this continued snow accumulation when the dominant ptype is clearly not snow, particularly combined with the mismatch between the UKMET snowfall output compared to other models, the claim above seems dubious. Something is not right with the way Pivotal depicts snowfall accumulation for the UKMET.

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7 minutes ago, weatherpruf said:

mt holly not as bullish as they were ; dropped amounts 2-4 and believe south of 95 switches to rain; sleet up to i 80, then they admit warm layer isn't that deep and could be overcome by intense snows....something we have tended to discount..... 

Here are the associated graphics:

 

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Just now, eduggs said:

This is questionable. See DCA as an example below. At 18z Sun the 18z UKMET shows 7.7" snow accumulation. The ptype is sleet and the sleet line has cleanly crossed the area. By 21z the sleet line has crossed into PA indicating the line was advancing steadily northward. Yet at 27hr the UK snow total on Pivotal increases to 8.9" for DCA and then 10.3", and 10.4" at 30hr and 33hr. Based on this continued snow accumulation when the dominant ptype is clearly not snow, particularly combined with the mismatch between the UKMET snowfall output compared to other models, the claim above seems dubious. Something is not right with the way Pivotal depicts snowfall accumulation for the UKMET.

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5 minutes ago, MANDA said:

Off to get some sleep.  Interesting day of weather coming up for tomorrow.  Hourly obs, radar and mPING on the agenda.  Good luck to all. 

Hope everyone gets what the want and what they expecting.

I will be working tomorrow. Should be fun.

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14 minutes ago, nycsnow said:

still watching that trend on the hourly models and hrr once again brings the mix line up and then starts to drop it south of li…. Really hope this isn’t fake 

It's advancing a little further every run. At 21z now it's sleeting in Staten Island and barrier islands, from the 0z run at the same time the sleet was around Perth Amboy. It still dumps a lot beforehand but it's noticeable by 10 miles or so. 

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