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December 2025 regional war/obs/disco thread


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7 hours ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Straight up whiffing on these op runs. Weak.

You can feel the angst growing after each set of model runs....hard to deny the stretch of years filled with warmish/wet to cold/dry. You would have to think one of these cold patterns would yield some luck. Nice 15 minute burst of snow this morning though....

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12/13-14 looks decent on EPS. That’s really our one hope in the next week. It’s too bad we somehow get a clipper to run into Ottawa next Wednesday despite a monster west based NAO block….thats the kind of stuff that’s been happening to us. 

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2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

12/13-14 looks decent on EPS. That’s really our one hope in the next week. It’s too bad we somehow get a clipper to run into Ottawa next Wednesday despite a monster west based NAO block….thats the kind of stuff that’s been happening to us. 

It’s an insert every power tool in shed and turn on kind of pattern 

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Just now, Damage In Tolland said:

It’s an insert every power tool in shed and turn on kind of pattern 

I feel like prob 2/3rds of the time in this type of blocking pattern, that clipper would go south of us or even tracking over us would work with the antecedent airmass. Oh well…we’ll have additional chances though. You just hope you finally hit on a couple before Xmas. 

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27 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

12/13-14 looks decent on EPS. That’s really our one hope in the next week. It’s too bad we somehow get a clipper to run into Ottawa next Wednesday despite a monster west based NAO block….thats the kind of stuff that’s been happening to us. 

I want to say it’s a “what can go wrong, will go wrong” type of pattern, but stepping back, we weren’t expecting most of NE to get snow in the first week of December until the models sold us that hopium of a SNE event. In fact, we were expecting a torch the week prior.

That system trended colder at the low levels at the last second, giving more people frozen than we assumed just 24 hours prior, and today some of those areas are getting measurable, albeit minor, from a Fraud 5.

The pattern is far from ideal, but we’re looking into the few days before Christmas now and a torch looks increasingly unlikely with plenty of shortwaves moving through the flow. The tradeoff is no KU potential, but I’m sure 90% of the subforum would take cold and no Grinch with minor stuff delivering at least some cover through Christmas than some high risk high reward pattern. 

If we get to the 20th and it’s snake eyes, then it’s time to sound the alarm.

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7 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

I want to say it’s a “what can go wrong, will go wrong” type of pattern, but stepping back, we weren’t expecting most of NE to get snow in the first week of December until the models sold us that hopium of a SNE event. In fact, we were expecting a torch the week prior.

That system trended colder at the low levels at the last second, giving more people frozen than we assumed just 24 hours prior, and today some of those areas are getting measurable, albeit minor, from a Fraud 5.

The pattern is far from ideal, but we’re looking into the few days before Christmas now and a torch looks increasingly unlikely with plenty of shortwaves moving through the flow. The tradeoff is no KU potential, but I’m sure 90% of the subforum would take cold and no Grinch with minor stuff delivering at least some cover through Christmas than some high risk high reward pattern. 

If we get to the 20th and it’s snake eyes, then it’s time to sound the alarm.

Some models hint at some warmth 18-20. I mean what could go wrong here?

 

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