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4 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

NE and E flow at 850mb?  Looks wedged.

BTV warmest place in New England during that time?

All of the ec modeling looks like big diurnal type days. Lalaland but would be some frost/freeze threats for the big rad sites.

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Two schools ... 

1 climate;   we're always getting some kind of decimal value feedback that corrupts toward higher numbers.   Emphasis on DECIMALS.  Still ... it plays a role. 

2 excluding that ... this month has never looked convincing to me as an above normal month.  The indices have up to this point been vague at best on that idea.  Mostly what I'm seeing in the modeling is warmth getting pushed back out in time. Meanwhile ... with flat ongoing index signaling, that's usually a red flag for their being full of shit with warm(cool) changes when this is the larger circumstance. 

The operational runs have a kind of quasi elasticity in their behavior.  The moment they're physics spontaneously engender a faux pattern relaxation, their processing goes on to bouncing the other way.  But, then the extended becomes the mid range ...and reality corrects that.   This song and dance happens on both sides, cool vs warm pattern foots. We see this in bad winter performance times, too, where the big pattern change is always just beyond D10. Then we finally get a snow threat in March after we've been conned for 49 days like taunted abuse.  Lol.   We more than merely symbolically ruined summer about 3 weeks ago, give or take.  It's been a BN pattern in principle really since; whether that has been verifying precisely as that in the dailies doesn't deny the essence, however.  Now, quite coherently a geriatric summer that doesn't have time to fuck around is suffering this correction on in time bullshit.   (Also, it's Meteorological first day of autumn... which doesn't mean anything but just along the way here - ) 

So if you are a warm enthusiasts... good luck.  Patterns do change.  That could happen.  But here's just one example of covert/sneaky correcting while everyone's thinking at warm up is en route.  

Euro, 24 hour correction ... barely noticeable, right?  

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59 minutes ago, ineedsnow said:

Even if we go above who cares at that point.. averages going down down down..

You miss the point . You don’t want a torch pattern going into autumn which is exactly what looks like is happening . This last week was probably the coolest weather until sometime later in October . Once the troughs and cool stop next week. It’s gone 

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25 minutes ago, bristolri_wx said:

Haven’t been here in about two weeks and good to know nothing has changed. Why exactly do we have separate monthly posts for each month during the warmer times of the year. Could just have one for Junulaugtember and we would be fine. :lol:

? any different in the winter 

 

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1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said:

You miss the point . You don’t want a torch pattern going into autumn which is exactly what looks like is happening . This last week was probably the coolest weather until sometime later in October . Once the troughs and cool stop next week. It’s gone 

farther BN, quite possible.  Lowest temps, maybe 5% chance.  Avg for Aug 31 here 72/50.  For Oct 16 it's 56/35.   Temps are very unlikely to overcome the 10-15° (1st and 16th) drop in averages and verify the boldface.

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1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said:

You miss the point . You don’t want a torch pattern going into autumn which is exactly what looks like is happening . This last week was probably the coolest weather until sometime later in October . Once the troughs and cool stop next week. It’s gone 

Who cares. Off the top of my head, fall of 2007, 2010, 2016, 2017, and 2022 were torches up here and great winters.

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1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said:

You miss the point . You don’t want a torch pattern going into autumn which is exactly what looks like is happening . This last week was probably the coolest weather until sometime later in October . Once the troughs and cool stop next week. It’s gone 

We all know if we have a deep trough and great pattern in October, everyone would be losing their shit that we are “wasting it” too early.

We, as members of this forum, can talk ourselves into worrying about anything when it comes to winter.  Warm autumn, cold autumn… we can get to the worrying part in multiple different ways. 

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2 hours ago, powderfreak said:

We all know if we have a deep trough and great pattern in October, everyone would be losing their shit that we are “wasting it” too early.

We, as members of this forum, can talk ourselves into worrying about anything when it comes to winter.  Warm autumn, cold autumn… we can get to the worrying part in multiple different ways. 

Hold me, I’m worried about a warm cold autumnly winter

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