Winter cancelled/uncancelled banter 25/26

[Santa Claus]

On 1/23/2026 at 9:23 PM, Santa Claus said:

i am using powders and spells to discourage the warm nose on Sunday

it is working

[Volcanic Winter]

I just don’t want the ZR, I’m pretty much fine with any other outcome at this point. 

I don’t recall too many ice storms growing up in CNJ, but there was one notable in my memory shortly after I started driving - had to be 2005 or 2006, I remember power sliding on the windy roads near my house trying to get home in the morning after sleeping over a friend’s house. Was driving an WRX at the time and distinctly remember feeling like it was the sole reason I didn’t end up in a tree. Was in interior Monmouth Co. Only cool thing is the unique crystallized look on surfaces, pass on everything else.  
 

I have though driven on ice covered mountain roads in Iceland a couple years ago, and it was a butt puckering experience I won’t soon forget. 

[NorthShoreWx]

5 hours ago, Jebman said:

Thus far tonight, 23 degrees, sleet and ZR bands continue apace, with half inch sleet accumulations on every surface, with about three sixteenths of an inch of pure ZR ice on top of that. The friction coefficient is extremely low and I have already experienced several near-disastrous episodes tonight as I tried my best to get sleet and ice accumulation measurements. Damn shoes are so slick! Railings are ice covered and VERY slippery, really not much help at all and I am most assuredly not the young man I once was and I really have to be super careful. This ain't 1994 no more! It's the mid 2020s and I'm OLD!

Oh man, Jeb is getting old?  Say it ain't so.

[jm1220]

13 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said:

Slim chance of that.  I'll take the under.

I cashed out from NYC and put my money into yes for 20"+ in Boston and a little on 24"+. I'm thinking under 10" too especially how they measure but it should really rip until 2-3pm when sleet will barge in. And then it's a question of how much QPF as sleet, that counts too. 

[NorthShoreWx]

1 hour ago, jm1220 said:

I cashed out from NYC and put my money into yes for 20"+ in Boston and a little on 24"+. I'm thinking under 10" too especially how they measure but it should really rip until 2-3pm when sleet will barge in. And then it's a question of how much QPF as sleet, that counts too. 

Find out what the guys from the Central Park Conservancy are betting.

[nycwinter]

probably have to go back to the 96 blizzard since we had snow in these cold temps in the city..

[North and West]

probably have to go back to the 96 blizzard since we had snow in these cold temps in the city..

2003?


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[Stormlover74]

16 minutes ago, North and West said:

2003?


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Snow began falling when it was 14 there so this is even colder

[Santa Claus]

these people on the road man i wish them luck.  it is nasty out there.

[North and West]

these people on the road man i wish them luck.  it is nasty out there.

Use your sleigh, reindeer man.


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[Santa Claus]

9 minutes ago, North and West said:

Use your sleigh, reindeer man.


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santa’s got glaucoma too man he can’t be driving in this

[Rjay]

 

[BxEngine]

Omg lol

[Snowlover11]

8 minutes ago, Rjay said:

 

Lmao!!

[TriPol]

On 1/19/2026 at 7:53 PM, WeatherGeek2025 said:

 yes buddy im not crying... i don't care nature gonna do what its gonna do

 

 

i do think tripod jinxed it though and it's going to miss to our south

Survey says.... WRONG

Central Park got nearly a foot of snow. I jinxed nothing.

[North and West]

can we cancel winter now?


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[Stormlover74]

Saturday is going to trend to a rainstorm for the coast 

[Nibor]

Just now, Stormlover74 said:

Saturday is going to trend to a rainstorm for the coast 

Bro, don't put that out in the universe what is wrong with you.

[WeatherGeek2025]

[North and West]

Saturday is going to trend to a rainstorm for the coast 

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[golfer67]

At one point humans were just living in caves and eating what they could hunt/find.

And now I'm on a plane 30k feet in air chatting with my wife on the ground and reading a weather forum...

 

I also had some beers in the airport and on the plane. Let's repeat this weekend.

 

That is all.

 

 

[Volcanic Winter]

10 hours ago, WeatherGeek2025 said:

This is bang on for what I have down here, about 20-22ish inches. 

[WeatherGeek2025]

1 minute ago, Volcanic Winter said:

This is bang on for what I have down here, about 20-22ish inches. 

it's been a great winter

[Volcanic Winter]

Memorable for sure, I rate and enjoy cold so even without snow I appreciate the contrast to other winters this decade. 

Gonna be planning a hiking trip in CT for my bday in a few weeks, love getting out in cold air and snow. 

[WeatherGeek2025]

4 minutes ago, Volcanic Winter said:

Memorable for sure, I rate and enjoy cold so even without snow I appreciate the contrast to other winters this decade. 

Gonna be planning a hiking trip in CT for my bday in a few weeks, love getting out in cold air and snow. 

enjoy and happy early birthday, hope you turn 100

[Roger Smith]

This is all the winters that got cancelled since 2022. 

[IrishRob17]

14 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said:

I'm in the 'wipe the board on phase changes' camp. 

Here is an example scenario illustrating some of the possible outcomes of only wiping once per 24 hours and not at phase changes.   Some of it isn't that far off from the reality of yesterday's event:

 - location 1 gets 8" of low water content fluffy snow and the storm ends.

 - location 2 gets the same 8" of low water content fluffy snow which then switches to sleet and 2" of sleet accumulate on top of it.  By the end of the storm later that day the snow depth has compressed to 8" (or less).

 - location 3 gets 2" of sleet first, followed by the same 8" of fluffy snow.

- locations 1 and 2 report snowfall as the maximum depth of 8"

 - location 3 reports a maximum depth of 10" as the daily snowfall.

Location 3 no doubt had the deepest snow depth.  Location 2 and 3 had the exact same amount of snow and sleet, but a different entry in the climate record.

Location 2 had more than twice as much frozen precipitation as location 1, but the only way to tell that is from the SWE.  They each report the same amount of snow and sleet.

On thing that stands out as being lost in these examples is the standard that snowfall includes snow and sleet.  Does it really include sleet for location 2?

We know that snowfall is the most poorly measured element of weather, although I guess PWS wind measurements are right up there for different reasons. We almost need a separate thread for those of us that use a properly placed snowboard and clear using the same metrics. Your post though reminded me of many years ago, 2015 I want to say, a poster had say a 12” snowpack then reported 6” of pure fluff. The next day I asked them what their snowpack was and they said 18” and I just rolled my eyes as the odds of zero settling of fluff snow over 24 hours were zero to none. That’s not even getting into people not understanding sublimation.  

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

8 hours ago, Volcanic Winter said:

This is bang on for what I have down here, about 20-22ish inches. 

Not a very representative map for Orange County. Most locations are 38-45 inches right now. 

[WeatherGeek2025]

this would be great