July 2025 Obs/Disco ... possible historic month for heat

[kdxken]

1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

Last full week of July looks darn warm. Quick mild down next weekend. 

Oh ye of little faith.

 

[metagraphica]

Low level mank keeps streaming across LI Forks and Sound. Doesn't look like the sun will break out until even later than yesterday.

71/69  While the dews are appreciated, some more heat would be nice.

[TheClimateChanger]

13 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Wow! Can't wait to see what this looks like at the end of the week. One thing I find odd the rankings in some of the biggest cities aren't as impressive: Boston (23), New York - Central Park (15), DC (11). The hottest anomalies seem to be in places where nobody lives, like Elkins and Clarksburg, W. Va. (both 1st place). The UHI theory would predict the opposite? Not sure what is going on there.

It seems some of these radiational cooling hotspots are just not radiating like they used. This very dense, vaporous atmosphere is wreaking havoc on overnight cooling. Much denser and vaporous than when I was a child.

Even ORH with a huge site discontinuity (elevation gain) is in 14th place, while Boston is 23rd place (and tied with 2 other years). And pretty much everywhere else is well in the top ten. Makes no sense... wonder if someone could sneak a thermometer in there to verify?

Anyone that keeps personal records - are you seeing this summer as cooler than a number of recent years like the official tally at Logan Airport, or is this one of your hottest?

[powderfreak]

9 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Even ORH with a huge site discontinuity (elevation gain) is in 14th place, while Boston is 23rd place (and tied with 2 other years). And pretty much everywhere else is well in the top ten. Makes no sense... wonder if someone could sneak a thermometer in there to verify?

Anyone that keeps personal records - are you seeing this summer as cooler than a number of recent years like the official tally at Logan Airport, or is this one of your hottest?

Do you want them to be hotter?  You sound so disappointed.

The ones running lower anomalies are on the ocean or closer to maritime air.  That has less variance.  They don’t radiate anyway.

Its ok if it’s not an absolute furnace everywhere.

[CoastalWx]

28 minutes ago, kdxken said:

Oh ye of little faith.

 

#Moregarbage

[TheClimateChanger]

7 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Do you want them to be hotter?  You sound so disappointed.

The ones running lower anomalies are on the ocean or closer to maritime air.  That has less variance.  They don’t radiate anyway.

Its ok if it’s not an absolute furnace everywhere.

I just want the correct numbers. Love it, or hate it, Boston is the place the local weatherperson will use for verification purposes.  Local farmers and utility operators need the correct data. If it is local sea breezes keeping it cooler, then it shouldn't be given any special significance.

I mean just look at, say, Mount Washington. Population literally zero. You get a completely different look.

[CoastalWx]

5 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

I just want the correct numbers. Love it, or hate it, Boston is the place the local weatherperson will use for verification purposes.  Local farmers and utility operators need the correct data. If it is local sea breezes keeping it cooler, then it shouldn't be given any special significance.

I mean just look at, say, Mount Washington. Population literally zero. You get a completely different look.

First order station. Logan’s Climo takes all that into account. So for Logan it hasn’t been all that crazy given how the pattern has favored sea breezes. When you take a bigger sample size and look at spots further inland you may see a different story.

[TheClimateChanger]

Just now, CoastalWx said:

First order station. Logan’s Climo takes all that into account. So for Logan it hasn’t been all that crazy given how the pattern has favored sea breezes. When you take a bigger sample size and look at spots further inland you may see a different story.

The map I posted previously was exclusively ThreadEx sites with PORs 100-150+ years. I just used Mount Washington as an illustrative example. CON has a longer POR than BOS and is top 5.

[CoastalWx]

1 minute ago, TheClimateChanger said:

The map I posted previously was exclusively ThreadEx sites with PORs 100-150+ years. I just used Mount Washington as an illustrative example. CON has a longer POR than BOS and is top 5.

That doesn’t change the fact that the pattern has favored sea breezes at Logan though. The high temp anomalies have been less vs inland. 

[CoastalWx]

Mt Washington anomalies prove it’s a torch aloft and why getting away from marine influence has torched areas further inland. 

[CoastalWx]

Also high dews mean interior areas don’t radiate which also aids in bigger anomalies. Cities don’t radiate anyways so it doesn’t matter too much what the dews do.

[TheClimateChanger]

16 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Also high dews mean interior areas don’t radiate which also aids in bigger anomalies. Cities don’t radiate anyways so it doesn’t matter too much what the dews do.

I guess, but even Blue Hill Observatory in eastern Massachusetts (high quality, long POR) has this as 3rd hottest start to summer behind only 2024 & 1999.

[FXWX]

Fog bank continues to teaser the beaches of Ogunquit...

[ineedsnow]

@Damage In Tolland I made it outside again lol yearly family golf outing then bbq... awesome out 

[TheClimateChanger]

9 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

I guess, but even Blue Hill Observatory in eastern Massachusetts (high quality, long POR) has this as 3rd hottest start to summer behind only 2024 & 1999.

Just a theory, but I suspect this more closely aligns with the conditions for most of SNE.

[powderfreak]

1 hour ago, TheClimateChanger said:

I just want the correct numbers. Love it, or hate it, Boston is the place the local weatherperson will use for verification purposes.  Local farmers and utility operators need the correct data. If it is local sea breezes keeping it cooler, then it shouldn't be given any special significance.

I mean just look at, say, Mount Washington. Population literally zero. You get a completely different look.

Maybe we are all just used to it because we’ve seen it for decades.  No one on here will say BOS is indicative of the entire New England area… we usually note it in winter.

None of this seems earth shattering that BOS is a different climate, it’s been like that for decades.

Just like if we were in a pattern with cooler air aloft and in the north, no one is using MWN as a judge of the SNE climate either.

[HoarfrostHubb]

Sun finally out at 11AM here. 

[DavisStraight]

37 minutes ago, ineedsnow said:

@Damage In Tolland I made it outside again lol yearly family golf outing then bbq... awesome out 

What course?

[ineedsnow]

2 minutes ago, DavisStraight said:

What course?

Templewood here in town.. did the back 9

[Damage In Tolland]

42 minutes ago, ineedsnow said:

@Damage In Tolland I made it outside again lol yearly family golf outing then bbq... awesome out 

You look so happy and free out in that heat and dews 

[ineedsnow]

Just now, Damage In Tolland said:

You look so happy and free out in that heat and dews 

Dews yes but it's actually not hot at all

[ineedsnow]

@Damage In Tolland a few drinks are helping

[dendrite]

1 hour ago, kdxken said:

Oh ye of little faith.

 

New low for him. The 432hr CFS 2m dewpoint chart. 

[ineedsnow]

1 minute ago, dendrite said:

New low for him. The 432hr CFS 2m dewpoint chart. 

It's coming

[CoastalWx]

55 minutes ago, ineedsnow said:

@Damage In Tolland I made it outside again lol yearly family golf outing then bbq... awesome out 

Why do you look violent?

[CoastalWx]

1 hour ago, TheClimateChanger said:

I guess, but even Blue Hill Observatory in eastern Massachusetts (high quality, long POR) has this as 3rd hottest start to summer behind only 2024 & 1999.

Blue Hill isn’t prone to the seabreeze like Logan.

[kdxken]

3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Why do you look violent?

He is. Torch tiger keeps it up and he'll be tossed around like his last delivery of the day.

[ma blizzard]

18 minutes ago, kdxken said:

He is. Torch tiger keeps it up and he'll be tossed around like his last delivery of the day.

poor guy has never been the same since a dark and stormy night in the chelmsford feeder lot 

[Damage In Tolland]

Not gonna be much sum today. These are pretty locked in 

[DavisStraight]

52 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Why do you look violent?

He got a double bogey with a 3 putt