TheClimateChanger Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 Looks like the water temperature at the Buffalo crib site (water intake for the city of Buffalo) on Lake Erie reached a scorching 77F this morning, which exceeds the daily record by 1F (continuous record since 1927). Keep in mind, this reading comes from a depth of 30 or 40 feet below the water surface, so the nearshore temperature could be several degrees higher. 139FZUS51 KBUF 151403NSHBUFNearshore Marine ForecastNational Weather Service Buffalo NY1003 AM EDT Tue Jul 15 2025For waters within five nautical miles of shoreWaves are the significant wave height - the average of the highest1/3 of the wave spectrum. Occasional wave height is the average ofthe highest 1/10 of the wave spectrum.LEZ020-152100-Upper Niagara River and Buffalo Harbor-1003 AM EDT Tue Jul 15 2025.THIS AFTERNOON...Light and variable winds. Sunny..TONIGHT...Light and variable winds. Mainly clear..WEDNESDAY...South winds 10 knots or less becoming southwest. Achance of showers and thunderstorms..WEDNESDAY NIGHT...Southwest winds 10 knots or less. A chance ofshowers and thunderstorms in the evening, then a chance ofshowers overnight..THURSDAY...Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming northwest.Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms..FRIDAY...North winds 5 to 10 knots becoming light and variable.Mostly cloudy, then clearing..SATURDAY...Southeast winds less than 10 knots becoming south. Achance of showers Saturday night.Winds and waves higher in and near thunderstorms.The water temperature off Buffalo is 77 degrees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 2 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Looks like the water temperature at the Buffalo crib site (water intake for the city of Buffalo) on Lake Erie reached a scorching 77F this morning, which exceeds the daily record by 1F (continuous record since 1927). Keep in mind, this reading comes from a depth of 30 or 40 feet below the water surface, so the nearshore temperature could be several degrees higher. 139FZUS51 KBUF 151403NSHBUFNearshore Marine ForecastNational Weather Service Buffalo NY1003 AM EDT Tue Jul 15 2025For waters within five nautical miles of shoreWaves are the significant wave height - the average of the highest1/3 of the wave spectrum. Occasional wave height is the average ofthe highest 1/10 of the wave spectrum.LEZ020-152100-Upper Niagara River and Buffalo Harbor-1003 AM EDT Tue Jul 15 2025.THIS AFTERNOON...Light and variable winds. Sunny..TONIGHT...Light and variable winds. Mainly clear..WEDNESDAY...South winds 10 knots or less becoming southwest. Achance of showers and thunderstorms..WEDNESDAY NIGHT...Southwest winds 10 knots or less. A chance ofshowers and thunderstorms in the evening, then a chance ofshowers overnight..THURSDAY...Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming northwest.Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms..FRIDAY...North winds 5 to 10 knots becoming light and variable.Mostly cloudy, then clearing..SATURDAY...Southeast winds less than 10 knots becoming south. Achance of showers Saturday night.Winds and waves higher in and near thunderstorms.The water temperature off Buffalo is 77 degrees. The all-time record high is 80F, set on July 25, 2011, August 4, 2011, and August 14-16, 1988. I think that could be the next domino to fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 7 minutes ago, bluewave said: Yeah, each day I walk around the Tweed airport just to my west. The vegetation and grassy areas around have gradually been turning brown last few weeks. Par for the course with the dry pattern and record heat since June 1st. We have generally had under 3 inches since June 1st. The 6 days reaching 90° since June 1st is 2nd highest here from June 1st to July 14th. June 1st to July 14th Time Series Summary for NEW HAVEN TWEED AP, CTClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 2025-07-14 2.80 0 2024-07-14 6.36 0 2023-07-14 5.29 1 2022-07-14 2.45 0 2021-07-14 7.73 0 2020-07-14 3.97 0 Have you seen a radar estimate map of rainfall? From what I just saw on WABC7, the green area (one inch of rainfall) extends to about halfway out in Nassau County on the south shore (to around Freeport I'd estimate), and then there's an area of 2 inches plus in southern Queens that extends down to Broad Channel and out to the Rockaway Peninsula. So this area is just to the east of that, so based on that I'd estimate we got between 1-2 inches of rain near Oceanside, probably closer to 1 inch. The south shore of eastern Nassau county had less than one inch (once you get east of Freeport.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 1 minute ago, TheClimateChanger said: The all-time record high is 80F, set on July 25, 2011, August 4, 2011, and August 14-16, 1988. I think that could be the next domino to fall. July 22-23 2011 had the most extreme heat I had ever seen until June 24-25 2025. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 11 minutes ago, bluewave said: Yeah, each day I walk around the Tweed airport just to my west. The vegetation and grassy areas around have gradually been turning brown last few weeks. Par for the course with the dry pattern and record heat since June 1st. We have generally had under 3 inches since June 1st. The 6 days reaching 90° since June 1st is 2nd highest here from June 1st to July 14th. June 1st to July 14th Time Series Summary for NEW HAVEN TWEED AP, CTClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 2025-07-14 2.80 0 2024-07-14 6.36 0 2023-07-14 5.29 1 2022-07-14 2.45 0 2021-07-14 7.73 0 2020-07-14 3.97 0 Yes June really baked, which is ironic because it started cool and rainy lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: July 22-23 2011 had the most extreme heat I had ever seen until June 24-25 2025. Wow! Hopefully, these superheated lake and sea surface conditions add enough moisture to the atmosphere to keep such high temperatures at bay for the next heat dome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 Just now, TheClimateChanger said: Wow! Hopefully, these superheated lake and sea surface conditions add enough moisture to the atmosphere to keep such high temperatures at bay for the next heat dome! No I'd much rather have westerly flow dry heat lol. the high humidity crap is disgusting, we need some geoengineering projects asap to remove both water vapor and carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. water vapor can be converted to drinking water and the carbon dioxide can be deposited into sinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 1 hour ago, LibertyBell said: We need to remove both CO2 AND water vapor from the atmosphere, we're in an emergency situation and removing CO2 or stopping fossil fuels (which won't happen in our lifetimes) won't be enough, water vapor needs to be taken out of the atmosphere too. And with the melting of the ice caps the emergency will only accelerate. Yeah, the number of these extreme rainfalls and flooding have been steadily increasing across the entire planet. Some areas which are more arid have been experiencing rapid swings between extreme drought and flooding as the water cycle accelerates. So on the list of concerns flooding will rank very high in a much warmer world. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: No I'd much rather have westerly flow dry heat lol. the high humidity crap is disgusting, we need some geoengineering projects asap to remove both water vapor and carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. water vapor can be converted to drinking water and the carbon dioxide can be deposited into sinks. This is a good point. In Texas and out west, they are fighting climate change by seeding the hell out of all of their clouds. I don't know why they don't implement a rain depletion program in the east. Like yesterday was a disaster waiting to happen with those slow-moving heavy thunderstorms. Then, it's like - oh no, the subway is flooding... the NJ Turnpike is submerged! I wonder if they could have zapped the clouds with directed electromagnetic energy or laser beams to heat the surrounding atmosphere up, potentially weakening the advancing storm system? Has there been any research into this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 9 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: The all-time record high is 80F, set on July 25, 2011, August 4, 2011, and August 14-16, 1988. I think that could be the next domino to fall. There is an upstate NY forum that might be interested in Buffalo water temps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 55 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: it will be interesting if the high can get strong enough again later in the summer to overpower the ocean and create another westerly flow pattern. Not sure yet at this point. But past instances of widespread 100° heat followed by 5”+ deluges usually didn’t have more widespread 100°s from NJ out to Suffolk. But it wouldn’t take much for some scattered 100° heat for the usual warm spots in NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 20 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: This is a good point. In Texas and out west, they are fighting climate change by seeding the hell out of all of their clouds. I don't know why they don't implement a rain depletion program in the east. Like yesterday was a disaster waiting to happen with those slow-moving heavy thunderstorms. Then, it's like - oh no, the subway is flooding... the NJ Turnpike is submerged! I wonder if they could have zapped the clouds with directed electromagnetic energy or laser beams to heat the surrounding atmosphere up, potentially weakening the advancing storm system? Has there been any research into this? well if we can remove water vapor before it builds up to the point of a deluge, it's like defusing a bomb.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 22 minutes ago, bluewave said: Yeah, the number of these extreme rainfalls and flooding have been steadily increasing across the entire planet. Some areas which are more arid have been experiencing rapid swings between extreme drought and flooding as the water cycle accelerates. So on the list of concerns flooding will rank very high in a much warmer world. I knew we had a lot of rain here, now we're under a flood advisory and it includes Oceanside, Atlantic Beach, Long Beach, Freeport, Massapequa, Bellmore, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 31 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: No I'd much rather have westerly flow dry heat lol. the high humidity crap is disgusting, we need some geoengineering projects asap to remove both water vapor and carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. water vapor can be converted to drinking water and the carbon dioxide can be deposited into sinks. 84/34 out here in Denver. Going to be 96 today but should feel great. Heading north into fall like weather soon 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 4 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: 84/34 out here in Denver. Going to be 96 today but should feel great. Heading north into fall like weather soon wow you're out there now? the nights must be absolutely awesome and with no light pollution and lots of stars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 15 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: wow you're out there now? the nights must be absolutely awesome and with no light pollution and lots of stars! Well no I'm right in the city. But tonight I'll be in Wyoming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 Really hoped the rains woulda cooled things off or at least make it comfortable outside. Says 79 but feels wayyyy hotter and very sticky again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 21 minutes ago, steve392 said: Really hoped the rains woulda cooled things off or at least make it comfortable outside. Says 79 but feels wayyyy hotter and very sticky again. Impressive to see the dew points approaching 80° up on Cape Cod. https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=KPVC&hours=72 Jul 15, 12:05 pm 81 79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 43 minutes ago, bluewave said: Impressive to see the dew points approaching 80° up on Cape Cod. https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=KPVC&hours=72 Jul 15, 12:05 pm 81 79 the sun has come back out after it was raining all morning here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 11 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: the sun has come back out after it was raining all morning here lol 80° SSTs now just east of NJ. 15 E Barnegat Li 1630 78 80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 About 70% cloud coverage now - still clinging on. Temp shot up to 84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 88/75/98. Wonder if one of these random showers will fire overhead? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWCCraig Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 0.53" over the past 24 hours. 2.10" since July 1st which isn't bad considering the average at ISP for the entire month of July is under 3". No where near as dry as the last few summers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 Got a random shower right over my area lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted July 15, 2025 Author Share Posted July 15, 2025 6 hours ago, jm1220 said: The 2025-26 ENSO thread covers this quite a bit. I agree and it’s been documented by Bluewave especially how this marine heatwave east of Japan ruins our winter storm setups. And looks like record heat there again. Hoping for an active typhoon season with lots of recurves into that area, maybe that’ll help a little but my hope for winter is very low with that warm water still there. It hypercharges the Pacific Jet which is the opposite of what gets it done here. Ok I'll go there... and drop it from here. I didnt get that warm sense from a post on MAP group. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 This has been one of the more impressive SST rebounds that we have seen from the spring into the summer. There was a significant cold pool to our east from the winter into the spring due to the record westerly flow leading to upwelling. This pattern has reversed with the persistent onshore flow and warmth this summer. The bouy east of Barnegat, NJ has a 81° water temperature today. https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44091 Water Temperature (WTMP): 81.0 °F 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 87/78/100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 Hazy day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabehippie Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 89 degrees, 57% RH. that is about a 72 dp. So gross out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 41 minutes ago, bluewave said: This has been one of the more impressive SST rebounds that we have seen from the spring into the summer. There was a significant cold pool to our east from the winter into the spring due to the record westerly flow leading to upwelling. This pattern has reversed with the persistent onshore flow and warmth this summer. The bouy east of Barnegat, NJ has a 81° water temperature today. https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44091 Water Temperature (WTMP): 81.0 °F that what usually happens during summer months.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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