Summer Banter 2021

[rclab]

23 hours ago, forkyfork said:

people who enjoy cool air in summer are contemptible freaks 

Forky, I know some live to push the envelope but you enjoy demolishing the Post Office. As always ….

[STORMANLI]

Actually, Mr. Rclab, pushing the envelope made us a living.

[bluewave]

A nice benefit of the onshore flow.

 

 

[Will - Rutgers]

i can't wait to see what life is like in 2050

i'm guessing the average dew point year-round is 80 F and the few remaining survivors of COVID-48 subsist on a diet of spotted lanternflies and boiled plastic waste

[ForestHillWx]

Lantern flies are ridiculous out this way. I’ve cut down the large ailanthus trees, but the new shoots are loaded with the bugs. I despise that plant to begin with due to its stink and proliferous seeding.
 

But, the bugs are now into my black walnut trees more extensively than last year. Other than “stomping them out”, any other successful methods?

[etudiant]

4 hours ago, ForestHillWx said:

Lantern flies are ridiculous out this way. I’ve cut down the large ailanthus trees, but the new shoots are loaded with the bugs. I despise that plant to begin with due to its stink and proliferous seeding.
 

But, the bugs are now into my black walnut trees more extensively than last year. Other than “stomping them out”, any other successful methods?

Afaik, there is no effective treatment currently. Ideally, there would be a specialized predatory wasp or something, but it has not been found as yet.

Guess that stomping them is at least modestly satisfying, even though it is quite futile.

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, etudiant said:

Afaik, there is no effective treatment currently. Ideally, there would be a specialized predatory wasp or something, but it has not been found as yet.

Guess that stomping them is at least modestly satisfying, even though it is quite futile.

Where did these come from?  Maybe a chemical treatment will be developed, although I'm not very fond of pesticide use, especially with what we learn about them years later.

 

[etudiant]

45 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Where did these come from?  Maybe a chemical treatment will be developed, although I'm not very fond of pesticide use, especially with what we learn about them years later.

 

Afaik, the Spotted Lantern Fly is a gift from Asia, coming in courtesy of poorly vetted imports.. Not sure if cutting down on our purchases of cheap Chinese junk such as IPhones would help much at this point, although perhaps it might prevent the Barred Lantern Fly and equivalent in the future..

Frankly, with the Asian Ash Borer and the Asian Long Horned beetle also both now well established here, I hear the sound of barn doors getting slammed shut somewhat belatedly....

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, etudiant said:

Afaik, the Spotted Lantern Fly is a gift from Asia, coming in courtesy of poorly vetted imports.. Not sure if cutting down on our purchases of cheap Chinese junk such as IPhones would help much at this point, although perhaps it might prevent the Barred Lantern Fly and equivalent in the future..

Frankly, with the Asian Ash Borer and the Asian Long Horned beetle also both now well established here, I hear the sound of barn doors getting slammed shut somewhat belatedly....

Stink bugs too I think?  I had never seen one before a few years ago and now I even see these alien looking creatures in my house, let alone outside.  Is this another one of those cheap imports?

 

[etudiant]

32 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Stink bugs too I think?  I had never seen one before a few years ago and now I even see these alien looking creatures in my house, let alone outside.  Is this another one of those cheap imports?

 

Nope, 100% American. Maybe climate change has expanded their range a bit.

[forkyfork]

12 minutes ago, etudiant said:

Nope, 100% American. Maybe climate change has expanded their range a bit.

wrong. the brown marmorated stink bug is from asia

[etudiant]

1 hour ago, forkyfork said:

wrong. the brown marmorated stink bug is from asia

Agree that that is a new one to join the throng, apparently first found in PA around the turn of the century, but spreading since across most of the US.

We do have plenty of native stink bugs to keep it company though.

[Will - Rutgers]

fun fact, if you find a mantis, it's very likely to be one of two invasives, most probably the Chinese mantis Tenodera sinensis but also perhaps the European mantis Mantis religiosa.  seems from what i've read that the native Carolina mantis Stagmomantis carolina is a bronze medalist in its own backyard.

cats are the ultimate invasives though.  keep your cats inside please.

[bluewave]

 

[etudiant]

14 hours ago, Will - Rutgers said:

fun fact, if you find a mantis, it's very likely to be one of two invasives, most probably the Chinese mantis Tenodera sinensis but also perhaps the European mantis Mantis religiosa.  seems from what i've read that the native Carolina mantis Stagmomantis carolina is a bronze medalist in its own backyard.

cats are the ultimate invasives though.  keep your cats inside please.

Nobody keeps bobcats any more apparently, even though they are efficient and non discriminatory predators that eat cats and rats both as available.

Agree on the mantis part, our home grown variant seems to be doing about as well as the native humans did, not so good.

Have to wonder whether there is some genetic difference that makes the locals more vulnerable.

[bluewave]

Omaha is the most recent record flash flood. Luckily, these people were rescued from the elevator and made it out OK.

 

[doncat]

13 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Omaha is the most recent record flash flood. Luckily, these people were rescued from the elevator and made it out OK.

 

Yikes being trapped in a flooded elevator...glad they're ok.

[Stormlover74]

Let the weenies rejoice

 

[crossbowftw3]

5 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Let the weenies rejoice

 

And commence the “winter is already dead” panic threads 

[uncle W]

NYC la nina winters and weak negative winters...blue is colder or snowier than average...black near average...red is above average...

I added weak negative years...-0.3 or lower for DJF tri monthly oni...coldest to warmest...

la nina winters...DJF ONI...A.T....min....30 day cold...snowfall...biggest snowfalls...

1962-63..............-0.4.......30.0....-2..........28.6..........16.3"..........4.2"

1967-68..............-0.6.......31.3....-1..........25.1..........19.5"..........6.6"

1970-71...............-1.4.......32.1.....4..........24.2..........15.5"..........6.4"

1995-96..............-0.9.......32.3.....5..........27.7..........75.6"..........20.2" 10.7" 7.5" 4.6" 4.6" 4.1"

2010-11...............-1.4.......32.7.....6..........28.1..........61.9"..........20.0" 19.0" 9.1" 5.0"

1955-56..............-1.1.......32.7.....5..........27.6..........33.5"..........11.6" 6.5" 4.2"

2013-14..............-0.4.......33.0.....4..........28.5..........57.4"..........12.5" 11.5" 8.0" 6.4" 5.0" 4.0"

1964-65..............-0.6.......33.3.....9..........28.0..........24.4"..........6.3" 4.6"

1985-86..............-0.5.......33.4.....8..........31.0..........13.0"..........4.5" 4.5"

2000-01..............-0.7.......33.5...14..........29.9..........35.0"..........12.0" 6.0" 5.7"

1954-55..............-0.6.......34.0.....0..........28.6..........11.5"..........3.9"

1966-67..............-0.4.......34.1.....4..........28.6..........51.5"..........12.5" 9.8" 7.1"

2008-09..............-0.8.......34.2.....6..........27.9..........27.6"..........8.3" 4.5" 4.3"

1975-76...............-1.6.......34.4....-1..........27.1..........17.3"..........4.2" 4.0"

1971-72...............-0.7.......35.1.....5..........28.6..........22.9"..........5.7" 5.2"

1983-84..............-0.6.......35.2.....4..........26.1..........25.4"..........6.9" 5.1" 4.6"

1973-74...............-1.8.......35.5.....6..........32.3..........23.5"..........6.0" 4.3"

1950-51..............-0.8.......35.9.....9..........33.0..........11.6"..........3.0"

1988-89..............-1.7.......35.9.....5..........32.4............8.1"..........5.0"

2020-21..............-1.0........36.1...14...........30.4..........38.6".........17.4" 10.5" 4.5" 4.4"

1999-00..............-1.7.......36.2.....3..........26.2..........16.3"..........5.5"

2017-18...............-0.8.......36.2.....5..........27.1...........40.9"..........9.8" 8.4" 5.5" 4.6" 4.4"

2007-08..............-1.6.......36.4...10..........35.7..........11.9"..........6.0"

1984-85..............-1.0.......36.4....-2..........27.5..........24.1".........5.7" 4.8" 4.3" 4.1"

2012-13..............-0.4.......36.9...11...........31.5..........26.1"..........11.4" 4.7"

2005-06..............-0.9.......37.3...14..........33.5..........40.0"..........26.9" 5.8"

1949-50..............-1.5.......37.5.....6..........31.6..........13.8"..........3.8"

1974-75..............-0.5.......37.5...15..........33.0..........13.1"..........7.8"

1996-97..............-0.5.......37.8.....4..........31.7..........10.0"..........3.5"

1998-99..............-1.5.......38.7.....9..........31.3..........12.7"..........4.5"

2016-17...............-0.3.......39.3...14..........35.4.........30.2".........9.4" 7.6" 5.1"

2011-12...............-0.9........40.5...13..........37.0............7.4"..........4.3"

[uncle W]

1 hour ago, uncle W said:

NYC la nina winters and weak negative winters...blue is colder or snowier than average...black near average...red is above average...

I added weak negative years...-0.3 or lower for DJF tri monthly oni...coldest to warmest...

la nina winters...DJF ONI...A.T....min....30 day cold...snowfall...biggest snowfalls...

1962-63..............-0.4.......30.0....-2..........28.6..........16.3"..........4.2"

1967-68..............-0.6.......31.3....-1..........25.1..........19.5"..........6.6"

1970-71...............-1.4.......32.1.....4..........24.2..........15.5"..........6.4"

1995-96..............-0.9.......32.3.....5..........27.7..........75.6"..........20.2" 10.7" 7.5" 4.6" 4.6" 4.1"

2010-11...............-1.4.......32.7.....6..........28.1..........61.9"..........20.0" 19.0" 9.1" 5.0"

1955-56..............-1.1.......32.7.....5..........27.6..........33.5"..........11.6" 6.5" 4.2"

2013-14..............-0.4.......33.0.....4..........28.5..........57.4"..........12.5" 11.5" 8.0" 6.4" 5.0" 4.0"

1964-65..............-0.6.......33.3.....9..........28.0..........24.4"..........6.3" 4.6"

1985-86..............-0.5.......33.4.....8..........31.0..........13.0"..........4.5" 4.5"

2000-01..............-0.7.......33.5...14..........29.9..........35.0"..........12.0" 6.0" 5.7"

1954-55..............-0.6.......34.0.....0..........28.6..........11.5"..........3.9"

1966-67..............-0.4.......34.1.....4..........28.6..........51.5"..........12.5" 9.8" 7.1"

2008-09..............-0.8.......34.2.....6..........27.9..........27.6"..........8.3" 4.5" 4.3"

1975-76...............-1.6.......34.4....-1..........27.1..........17.3"..........4.2" 4.0"

1971-72...............-0.7.......35.1.....5..........28.6..........22.9"..........5.7" 5.2"

1983-84..............-0.6.......35.2.....4..........26.1..........25.4"..........6.9" 5.1" 4.6"

1973-74...............-1.8.......35.5.....6..........32.3..........23.5"..........6.0" 4.3"

1950-51..............-0.8.......35.9.....9..........33.0..........11.6"..........3.0"

1988-89..............-1.7.......35.9.....5..........32.4............8.1"..........5.0"

2020-21..............-1.0........36.1...14...........30.4..........38.6".........17.4" 10.5" 4.5" 4.4"

1999-00..............-1.7.......36.2.....3..........26.2..........16.3"..........5.5"

2017-18...............-0.8.......36.2.....5..........27.1...........40.9"..........9.8" 8.4" 5.5" 4.6" 4.4"

2007-08..............-1.6.......36.4...10..........35.7..........11.9"..........6.0"

1984-85..............-1.0.......36.4....-2..........27.5..........24.1".........5.7" 4.8" 4.3" 4.1"

2012-13..............-0.4.......36.9...11...........31.5..........26.1"..........11.4" 4.7"

2005-06..............-0.9.......37.3...14..........33.5..........40.0"..........26.9" 5.8"

1949-50..............-1.5.......37.5.....6..........31.6..........13.8"..........3.8"

1974-75..............-0.5.......37.5...15..........33.0..........13.1"..........7.8"

1996-97..............-0.5.......37.8.....4..........31.7..........10.0"..........3.5"

1998-99..............-1.5.......38.7.....9..........31.3..........12.7"..........4.5"

2016-17...............-0.3.......39.3...14..........35.4.........30.2".........9.4" 7.6" 5.1"

2011-12...............-0.9........40.5...13..........37.0............7.4"..........4.3"

14 cold...10 average...8 mild...;10 snowy...7 near average...15 with less snow than average...

[forkyfork]

the lanternflies are everywhere in jersey city

[LibertyBell]

On 8/6/2021 at 6:15 PM, Will - Rutgers said:

i can't wait to see what life is like in 2050

i'm guessing the average dew point year-round is 80 F and the few remaining survivors of COVID-48 subsist on a diet of spotted lanternflies and boiled plastic waste

If I'm still alive I want to be on Mars by then.

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, forkyfork said:

the lanternflies are everywhere in jersey city

how long before they start spraying pesticides to kill these off?

 

[rclab]

On 8/6/2021 at 6:15 PM, Will - Rutgers said:

i can't wait to see what life is like in 2050

i'm guessing the average dew point year-round is 80 F and the few remaining survivors of COVID-48 subsist on a diet of spotted lanternflies and boiled plastic waste

Good evening Will and thank you. You’ve given me the incentive to live until I’m 103. I may now reconsider and give serious thought to getting that implant. I just haven’t decided, yet, where I want it placed. As always …..

[rclab]

On 7/29/2021 at 6:05 PM, Rjay said:

I don't even bother anymore.  Just let people say whatever they want with no pushback.  What's the point anymore?

As I have said, Rjay. You don’t have to. Just reply, without comment. Your avatar will do the rest. As always ….

[Will - Rutgers]

4 hours ago, forkyfork said:

the lanternflies are everywhere in jersey city

they are noxious.  large, quickish, stupid insects, and there's forty billion of them.

3 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

If I'm still alive I want to be on Mars by then.

i hate that Mars shit, has anyone told any of these people there's no water or oxygen on Mars?

i hope that one day, that alien lizard muppet Jeff Bezos is crossing the street when he's hit by Elon Musk's self-driving Tesla bus, which then promptly self-engulfs in a massive lithium fire.  they are two peas in a pod and i hope the pod is full of bedbugs.

2 hours ago, rclab said:

Good evening Will and thank you. You’ve given me the incentive to live until I’m 103. I may now reconsider and give serious thought to getting that implant. I just haven’t decided, yet, where I want it placed. As always …..

rclab i don't even want to wake up tomorrow and you're looking forward to 103.  do you have any idea how many election cycles that is.

[Will - Rutgers]

On 8/8/2021 at 2:13 PM, etudiant said:

Nobody keeps bobcats any more apparently, even though they are efficient and non discriminatory predators that eat cats and rats both as available.

Agree on the mantis part, our home grown variant seems to be doing about as well as the native humans did, not so good.

Have to wonder whether there is some genetic difference that makes the locals more vulnerable.

maybe it's just a lack of sufficient selective pressure.  maybe American mantids are growing more aggressive or resilient over time to respond to the Chinese threat.

this is the Space Race all over again.

[rclab]

1 hour ago, Will - Rutgers said:

they are noxious.  large, quickish, stupid insects, and there's forty billion of them.

i hate that Mars shit, has anyone told any of these people there's no water or oxygen on Mars?

i hope that one day, that alien lizard muppet Jeff Bezos is crossing the street when he's hit by Elon Musk's self-driving Tesla bus, which then promptly self-engulfs in a massive lithium fire.  they are two peas in a pod and i hope the pod is full of bedbugs.

rclab i don't even want to wake up tomorrow and you're looking forward to 103.  do you have any idea how many election cycles that is.

Will I may plagiarize your second paragraph it’s the best one since I wrote this eastern curse on a college final: “ May a herd of a thousand elephants urinate in the womb of your beloved on the night of your betrothal.” And thank you for reminding me about the election cycles. With that in mind I know exactly where I want the implant placed. As always ….

[doncat]

2 minutes ago, rclab said:

Will I may plagiarize your second paragraph it’s the best one since I wrote this eastern curse on a college final: “ May a herd of a thousand elephants urinate in the womb of your beloved on the night of your betrothal.” And thank you for reminding me about the election cycles. With that in mind I know exactly where I want the implant placed. As always ….

The quote sounds like Carnac the Magnificent.