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Summer Banter 2021


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3 hours ago, uncle W said:

the solution that sounds simple but might work is plant trees and stop raping the rain forests...

Estimates are that it could work, but only on a huge scale, such as adding a trillion trees.

Iirc, the North Eastern US has reforested pretty substantially in the last century, so we just have to get India, China and Brazil on board....

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-weather-henan/central-chinas-henan-province-swamped-after-heaviest-rain-in-1000-years-idUSKBN2EQ2CF

From Saturday to Tuesday, 617.1 mm (24.3 inches) of rain fell in Zhengzhou, almost the equivalent of its annual average of 640.8 mm (25.2 inches).

The three days of rain matched a level seen only “once in a thousand years”, meteorologists said.

Like recent heatwaves in the United States and Canada and extreme flooding seen in western Europe, the rainfall in China was almost certainly linked to global warming, scientists told Reuters.

“Such extreme weather events will likely become more frequent in the future,” said Johnny Chan, a professor of atmospheric science at City University of Hong Kong.

“What is needed is for governments to develop strategies to adapt to such changes,” he added, referring to authorities at city, province and national levels.

 

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36 minutes ago, Rjay said:

I have so much to say but I'm just gonna zip it.  

Good evening, Rjay. I understand and agree. At least you have your avatar, in place, for emphasis. I’ll just re-read some 20 year old disaster Sci Fy by Art Bell and Whitley Strieber. I bought it when hard cover was still in fashion. Somehow the premise does not seem as implausible as it once did. As always….

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9 hours ago, Rjay said:

I have so much to say but I'm just gonna zip it.  

Just saw a thing on artificial rain in the UAE, they are seeding clouds to produce rain there to reduce the intensity of heatwaves.  The reporter said that 8 states in the West are also using cloud seeding to alleviate the long term drought there.

 

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On 7/20/2021 at 2:45 PM, LibertyBell said:

I think we need to get to climate engineering asap, it's obvious that it's now become necessary.

The risk of crop failures would be too high.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/aug/08/reflecting-suns-rays-would-cause-crops-to-fail-scientists-warn

Proposals to combat climate change by reflecting the sun’s rays back into space would cause widespread crop failure, cancelling out any benefits to farming from the reduction in warming, according to new research.

 

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38 minutes ago, Maureen said:

Title of the next Gerard Butler movie. 

Good morning, Maureen. As producer or actor? Perhaps both. The premise two decades ago was a bit of an outlandish fringe scenario. Reviewing recent weather events it becomes increasingly plausible and topical. If you haven’t read it you might want to give it a digital look. I enjoyed the split narrative structure employed by the authors. Unfortunately the “Day after Tomorrow, which was based on it p, did not do it justice. Not unusual to find a written take better than the screen version. Stay well, as always ….

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2 hours ago, bluewave said:

The risk of crop failures would be too high.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/aug/08/reflecting-suns-rays-would-cause-crops-to-fail-scientists-warn

Proposals to combat climate change by reflecting the sun’s rays back into space would cause widespread crop failure, cancelling out any benefits to farming from the reduction in warming, according to new research.

 

Would these cloud seeding processes we've now seen being implemented in 8 states and some countries like the UAE help?

 

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2 hours ago, Rjay said:

Well personally, I think we're all lizard people and humans don't actually exist.   And...nah nvm

 

Good evening, Rjay. That means that the best of us were wiped out by an errant rock 65 million years ago. As ye sow ….. as always ….

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6 hours ago, bluewave said:

Hard to keep track of all the record flash flooding around the world. Luckily, the driver survived. 

 

whats the bigger problem, the record flooding or the scorching droughts?  and do you think all the cloud seeding going on is going to be enough to be enough to curb the worst of the droughts?  I read that the most it can do is add back 20-25 pct of normal precip for a given region that's in drought conditions.

 

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14 hours ago, Stormlover74 said:

My inlaws in cottonwood AZ have had 7.9" in the past 7 days. Unfortunately someone was swept away by the floodwaters last night

Yeah, these rainfall extremes are occurring all across the world. This is officially the wettest monsoon on record to date in Tucson. Also notice how the intensity of the monsoon produced the record  cool temperatures in Phoenix.

 

 

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32 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, these rainfall extremes are occurring all across the world. This is officially the wettest monsoon on record to date in Tucson. Also notice how the intensity of the monsoon produced the record  cool temperatures in Phoenix.

 

 

Whats the cause of this sudden global rainfall increase all across the world, even in areas experiencing a super drought?  It's almost like we have a monster storm circulating across the entire planet, our own version of the Great Red Spot.

 

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14 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Whats the cause of this sudden global rainfall increase all across the world, even in areas experiencing a super drought?  It's almost like we have a monster storm circulating across the entire planet, our own version of the Great Red Spot.

 

A combination of a warmer atmosphere holding more moisture and slower moving systems. 

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23 minutes ago, bluewave said:

A combination of a warmer atmosphere holding more moisture and slower moving systems. 

weird it's also happening in areas that are in megadroughts.  It is the monsoon season though!  Any reports of excessive reports out of the Asian monsoons?

 

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