Winter 2020-2021 Banter

[Stormlover74]

46 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

is it too much to ask for a storm to tuck in south of montauk and east of acy

 

[North and West]

46 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

is it too much to ask for a storm to tuck in south of montauk and east of acy

Joking aside, when is the next anticipated time we can spot something to track? It looks like it'll be quiet for a while. 

[forkyfork]

3 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

 

i have no idea which one that is

[Stormlover74]

2 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

i have no idea which one that is

12/30/2000

 

[forkyfork]

2 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

12/30/2000

boxing day too. that's the benchmark for nyc

[uncle W]

 

[North and West]

12/30/2000
 

One of my all time favorites.


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[Stormlover74]

16 minutes ago, North and West said:

One of my all time favorites.


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Me too. 17" in 8 hours 

What was so amazing was at midnight the storm was just forming...nothing was even on radar yet and then it just exploded

[forkyfork]

1 minute ago, Stormlover74 said:

Me too. 17" in 8 hours 

What was so amazing was at midnight the storm was just forming...nothing was even on radar yet and then it just exploded

i was a freshman in HS and jumped out of bed at 6 am when i heard thunder

[jm1220]

11 hours ago, Stormlover74 said:

Me too. 17" in 8 hours 

What was so amazing was at midnight the storm was just forming...nothing was even on radar yet and then it just exploded

First time for sure I heard thundersnow. Absolutely incredible rates. I was in Long Beach then-2 towns over reported 16”. Believable. 

[weatherpruf]

On 12/16/2020 at 4:48 PM, rclab said:

If mine,  May she rest,  saw me at my present 140 lbs, i would be force fed while chained to the kitchen table. As always ....

I haven't been 140 pounds since 1979.....

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, jm1220 said:

First time for sure I heard thundersnow. Absolutely incredible rates. I was in Long Beach then-2 towns over reported 16”. Believable. 

I always point to that storm when people say that a storm cutting across Long Island cant be all snow here.

[LibertyBell]

16 hours ago, forkyfork said:

boxing day too. that's the benchmark for nyc

it was really good but not historic across long island.....J01232016 was historic across a wide swath of the region ;-)

 

[rclab]

1 hour ago, weatherpruf said:

I haven't been 140 pounds since 1979.....

2003 I weighed 205 pounds by mid 2004 I was 140. Typical man, I thought nothing of it and just kept tightening the belt. My lost love said your going to the Doctor. I said no and that’s final. I, like Ralph Kramer, am the king of my Italian castle. So I went immediately. My primary care physician thought the bucket and my foot were about to meet. ( he told me this tidbit later ) set me up for every test/scan there was and told my love to make sure the personal affairs were in order,  I am still here at 140lbs sixteen years later, still missing what was best in my life, my lost love.  Today is her birthday. She would have been 68. My comfort today is to gaze at my postage stamp, dressed in white and imagine the  briefest  touch of soft lips on my cheek. As always ....

[STORMANLI]

1 hour ago, rclab said:

2003 I weighed 205 pounds by mid 2004 I was 140. Typical man, I thought nothing of it and just kept tightening the belt. My lost love said your going to the Doctor. I said no and that’s final. I, like Ralph Kramer, am the king of my Italian castle. So I went immediately. My primary care physician thought the bucket and my foot were about to meet. ( he told me this tidbit later ) set me up for every test/scan there was and told my love to make sure the personal affairs were in order,  I am still here at 140lbs sixteen years later, still missing what was best in my life, my lost love.  Today is her birthday. She would have been 68. My comfort today is to gaze at my postage stamp, dressed in white and imagine the  briefest  touch of soft lips on my cheek. As always ....

Sorry. I know your pain as my deceased bride would have also turned 68 back in August. Sad it's over, but glad it happened.  Didn't have your level of weight loss but did lose 20 lbs in one week at 19.  Comfortable being in mid to upper 140s.

[hooralph]

I loved that storm. I’ll take 10” a week before Christmas any year over stressing whether we have an inch on the ground on 12/25. The city is magical right now. We haven’t had a snowfall with staying power like this in a long time. And in December?

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, hooralph said:

I loved that storm. I’ll take 10” a week before Christmas any year over stressing whether we have an inch on the ground on 12/25. The city is magical right now. We haven’t had a snowfall with staying power like this in a long time. And in December?

winters where we get a sizable amount of snow in December are also usually long snowcover winters- 1947-48, 1995-96 and 2010-11 being cases in point.  1995-96 had a big thaw but then it got right back to snowing lol.

[Nibor]

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

this is much better than the low IQ BS that passes for "songs" these days.

 

 

2 hours ago, HeadInTheClouds said:

Because todays music sucks. 

 

1 hour ago, Kborne said:

I have three sons.  They know the words to all my fav 80's songs...Their friends come over...they like those songs too..  it surprised me to hear them say today's music sucks. 

 

First off, don't act like there wasn't a lot of trash ass music during your supposed "golden" days. There's always been bad music.

 

Popular music is the byproduct of culture. Culture changes as you get older. The culture that affects you the most comes from your youth. The older you are the less you're likely going to identify with what is new. That doesn't mean it's bad, it means you're old. You don't identify with the music. That's fine, but don't confuse the two.

 

"Music today sucks" is a brain dead comment.

[LibertyBell]

7 minutes ago, Nibor said:

 

 

First off, don't act like there wasn't a lot of trash ass music during your supposed "golden" days. There's always been bad music.

 

Popular music is the byproduct of culture. Culture changes as you get older. The culture that affects you the most comes from your youth. The older you are the less you're likely going to identify with what is new. That doesn't mean it's bad, it means you're old. You don't identify with the music. That's fine, but don't confuse the two.

 

"Music today sucks" is a brain dead comment.

okay then let's find a logical reason for why music has gotten worse with time....commercialism.  It isn't just music that's been degraded it's many other facets of life.  Let's face it, we live in a time when instant gratification results in a poor diet, where half of Americans have become obese (this started around 2000) and thats when the diabetes epidemic started, chiefly because of the consumption of convenient processed food.  This era of "convenience" has bled into other facets of life generally degrading quality of life while increasing costs.  Music is just a reflection of that new reality.  And a lot of youth are rebelling against this new commercial reality.  You completely forgot about the comment where a poster mentioned that his own children and their friends prefer music from the 80s.  That's right in line with what I've seen too.  It has nothing to do with one's age but with a measurable lowering of the quality of life.

 

 

[HeadInTheClouds]

2 minutes ago, Nibor said:

 

 

First off, don't act like there wasn't a lot of trash ass music during your supposed "golden" days. There's always been bad music.

 

Popular music is the byproduct of culture. Culture changes as you get older. The culture that affects you the most comes from your youth. The older you are the less you're likely going to identify with what is new. That doesn't mean it's bad, it means you're old. You don't identify with the music. That's fine, but don't confuse the two.

 

"Music today sucks" is a brain dead comment.

Dude you are entitled to your opinion but I stand by my comment. The amazing talent of the bands and artists that I and others mentioned is far superior than the auto-tune garbage of many "artists" of today. 

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, HeadInTheClouds said:

Dude you are entitled to your opinion but I stand by my comment. The amazing talent of the bands and artists that I and others mentioned is far superior than the auto-tune garbage of many "artists" of today. 

He also completely ignored the fact that so many of our youth gravitate towards older music.  The Beatles are still considered the greatest rock band of all time.  Find me a young group today that is anywhere near how great they were or Led Zeppelin or Queen for that matter.  This isn't just an "opinion" it's a measurable matter of fact.  What separates great music from rank commercialism is that the former tells a story and if you take the music away, the words still matter, they read like poetry written by some of our greatest writers.  To not notice the general degradation of society, and how that's reflected in music, is to bury one's head in the sand.  Facts are facts.....the new generation is angry because they know that their prospects for a better life are not as good as the previous generation's were and they have every right to be angry.  You get less quality for the same amount of money, or even worse, lower quality that also costs more.  There are multiple reasons for this, but corporatism, commercialism, etc., are all part of it.

[HeadInTheClouds]

5 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

He also completely ignored the fact that so many of our youth gravitate towards older music.  The Beatles are still considered the greatest rock band of all time.  Find me a young group today that is anywhere near how great they were or Led Zeppelin or Queen for that matter.  This isn't just an "opinion" it's a measurable matter of fact.

Ya mean that Post Malone, the Weeknd, and Dababy arent as talented and influential as the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd or Queen? Go figure. 

[Nibor]

1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

He also completely ignored the fact that so many of our youth gravitate towards older music.  The Beatles are still considered the greatest rock band of all time.  Find me a young group today that is anywhere near how great they were or Led Zeppelin or Queen for that matter.  This isn't just an "opinion" it's a measurable matter of fact.

A section of the youth population enjoying older music doesn't invalidate current music. Acting like your music is better and that everyone who listens to current music is somehow "unhealthy" is laughably elitist. 

My suggestion, as someone who listens to large variety of music including the artists you listen to, is to have an open mind and not act like a gatekeeper.

[LibertyBell]

14 minutes ago, Nibor said:

A section of the youth population enjoying older music doesn't invalidate current music. Acting like your music is better and that everyone who listens to current music is somehow "unhealthy" is laughably elitist. 

My suggestion, as someone who listens to large variety of music including the artists you listen to, is to have an open mind and not act like a gatekeeper.

It's not "my music" though,  I wasn't even born yet when most of the groups I referenced were in their heyday.  As a person who believes in the complexity of the English language and classical writing and poetry, I naturally gravitate towards those who are the most literate and write the best.  Writing is something that can be judged objectively.  That may not be the best by everyone's standards but I have a specific objective definition of what I like and it's the type of writing that matches classical writing and poetry.

 

 

[LibertyBell]

I wasn't even around in the 60s but I defer to the experts on this:

https://gulfnews.com/entertainment/music/rap-rock-and-all-that-jazz-which-decade-had-the-best-music-1.1564376108517#:~:text=The 60s,was in its purest forms.

*this is obviously somewhat subjective based on what kind of music one is exposed to, but there has to be some objective metric in terms of music's influence on society.

The 60s

Hardcore music lovers will argue that the 60s were the best decade in musical history. It was in the early 60s when rock music was in its purest forms. As the decade neared its end, the pure rock was muddled with psychedelic rock, blues-rock, and folk rock, which had grown in popularity as the decade progressed.

John Lennon was once quoted saying “The thing the sixties did was to show us the possibilities and the responsibility that we all had. It wasn't the answer. It just gave us a glimpse of the possibility.” The music industry really started to properly form, at that time. There was less segregation determining who could sing what. The sixties was a time of excitement in the music scene. The lyrics started becoming more experimental and expressive. Songs were more thought provoking, and tackled social issues, rather than just asking how much a doggie in the window was. And artists like The Beatles helped many see through the tough times.

 

another nod to the 60s

https://www.nme.com/news/music/this-is-the-best-decade-for-pop-music-according-to-science-2467655

 

https://www.smoothradio.com/news/music/best-decade-pop-music/

 

These are all quoting this study

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0210066

[LibertyBell]

36 minutes ago, HeadInTheClouds said:

Ya mean that Post Malone, the Weeknd, and Dababy arent as talented and influential as the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd or Queen? Go figure. 

and we didn't even mention Bob Dylan, perhaps the most prolific songwriter in modern history....didn't he sell the rights to his music recently for a huge sum of money?

 

[Nibor]

14 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I wasn't even around in the 60s but I defer to the experts on this:

https://gulfnews.com/entertainment/music/rap-rock-and-all-that-jazz-which-decade-had-the-best-music-1.1564376108517#:~:text=The 60s,was in its purest forms.

*this is obviously somewhat subjective based on what kind of music one is exposed to, but there has to be some objective metric in terms of music's influence on society.

The 60s

Hardcore music lovers will argue that the 60s were the best decade in musical history. It was in the early 60s when rock music was in its purest forms. As the decade neared its end, the pure rock was muddled with psychedelic rock, blues-rock, and folk rock, which had grown in popularity as the decade progressed.

John Lennon was once quoted saying “The thing the sixties did was to show us the possibilities and the responsibility that we all had. It wasn't the answer. It just gave us a glimpse of the possibility.” The music industry really started to properly form, at that time. There was less segregation determining who could sing what. The sixties was a time of excitement in the music scene. The lyrics started becoming more experimental and expressive. Songs were more thought provoking, and tackled social issues, rather than just asking how much a doggie in the window was. And artists like The Beatles helped many see through the tough times.

 

another nod to the 60s

https://www.nme.com/news/music/this-is-the-best-decade-for-pop-music-according-to-science-2467655

 

 

I never said music from the 60s wasn't influential. Yes Bob Dylan is great. Your assertion that music made now is bad is narrow minded.

[Snowshack]

8 minutes ago, Torch said:

Could this bean old fashioned winter? So far so good.

Last few days have been great.   If the Christmas Eve system had somehow been a snowstorm this probably would have been the best runup to the holidays for winter weather enthusiasts in a very long time.  At least there is some promise going forward.

[NorthShoreWx]

Is there a problem with my connection or is the new NWS Radar landing page an abomination?  Difficult to see, difficult to select/configure, and  great big gobs of latency.  By the time it updates, the storm is over.

For those of you already with your fingers on the keyboard about to respond 'I never use that you should use such and such', save it.  The question is about the NWS radar landing page.

[Snowshack]

50 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

Is there a problem with my connection or is the new NWS Radar landing page an abomination?  Difficult to see, difficult to select/configure, and  great big gobs of latency.  By the time it updates, the storm is over.

For those of you already with your fingers on the keyboard about to respond 'I never use that you should use such and such', save it.  The question is about the NWS radar landing page.

I’ve had same problem.  Site is really slow and not as user friendly as the one it replaced.