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1 minute ago, Rvarookie said:

I think at end of day there is no integrity in the data, but yet y’all sit here and freak out all day everyday. It’s clearly become a personal choice if someone wants to buy into the fear or take the risk that perhaps things may not be as portrayed. Just think at this point there’s not much integrity in any data from any country from any study, so nobody should pretend they have it all figured out

No integrity in what data specifically?  Also, if you’re so above “freaking out” and if the data that we discuss is in your mind no good then why are you in this thread at all?

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This thread may be good example why some of y’all can’t ever predict a snow storm. Too busy consumed on models and what everyone else says to have the balls to form your own opinions. 

I do appreciate the data you have all shared daily tho and I hope y’all stay healthy during  these tough times. 

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7 minutes ago, Rvarookie said:

This thread may be good example why some of y’all can’t ever predict a snow storm. Too busy consumed on models and what everyone else says to have the balls to form your own opinions. 

I do appreciate the data you have all shared daily tho and I hope y’all stay healthy during  these tough times. 

Hahaha I do like your trolling style better than some of the others that have passed through this thread tbh.  At least you don’t pretend to try to understand what’s actually happening out there in the world. It’s a little less abrasive, keep it up. 

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2 minutes ago, DCTeacherman said:

Hahaha I do like your trolling style better than some of the others that have passed through this thread tbh.  At least you don’t pretend to try to understand what’s actually happening out there in the world. It’s a little less abrasive, keep it up. 

Thanks! Def not trolling. Just coming from a place where you can’t trust much of anything so I’d  prefer to take the risks, yet also trying to be sensitive to others that may not feel that same way. At least we should all agree the denominator has always been off...

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2 minutes ago, Rvarookie said:

Thanks! Def not trolling. Just coming from a place where you can’t trust much of anything so I’d  prefer to take the risks, yet also trying to be sensitive to others that may not feel that same way. At least we should all agree the denominator has always been off...

The thing about infectious disease though is that it’s not just you.  You being out in the world increases the risk that others will get it.  Secondly, if you mean the total number of infections is greater than the known number of cases, of course.  That is true for every disease in the history of mankind that there is a test for. 

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27 minutes ago, Rvarookie said:

I think at end of day there is no integrity in the data, but yet y’all sit here and freak out all day everyday. It’s clearly become a personal choice if someone wants to buy into the fear or take the risk that perhaps things may not be as portrayed. Just think at this point there’s not much integrity in any data from any country from any study, so nobody should pretend they have it all figured out

So if every study and all data is useless what are you using to form your opinion?  

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3 minutes ago, DCTeacherman said:


I’d really like to know how much of a risk this is. If groups stay 6 feet apart it seems just based on common sense that it wouldn’t be able to spread like in a confined space.  I know there isn’t a lot of conclusive data on this yet....

THAT picture is clearly a risk...

 

Remember one of the biggest clusters came from spring break travelers.

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2 minutes ago, DCTeacherman said:


I’d really like to know how much of a risk this is. If groups stay 6 feet apart it seems just based on common sense that it wouldn’t be able to spread like in a confined space.  I know there isn’t a lot of conclusive data on this yet....

It probably looks worse than it actually is.  If people keep their distance from one another the risk of transmission is fairly low.  The other issue, however, is that all those people are touching more gas pumps, parking meters, etc.  

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Just now, supernovasky said:

THAT picture is clearly a risk...

 

Remember one of the biggest clusters came from spring break travelers.

Yes but doesn’t mean they gave it to each other on the beach.  The bigger issue is sharing hotel rooms, bars, restaurants, etc.   I assume these are mostly residents hanging out on the beach with their families.  

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Just now, supernovasky said:

THAT picture is clearly a risk...

 

Remember one of the biggest clusters came from spring break travelers.

I think the spring break thing probably had to do more with the incredible amounts of drinking/hooking up that occurs at spring break.  I don’t think the act of sitting on the beach would be THAT risky. 

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Just now, jaydreb said:

It probably looks worse than it actually is.  If people keep their distance from one another the risk of transmission is fairly low.  The other issue, however, is that all those people are touching more gas pumps, parking meters, etc.  

That's the bigger problem. A lot of people don't realize... all these people have to use the bathroom somewhere. Water fountains, passing by each other without 6 feet of distance on piers, not wearing masks, going to the same stores beforehand nearby to purchase supplies, kids playing with other kids, picking things up that strangers drop.

 

And let's not forget just the simple act of gathering people who haven't hung out to "go hang out for a beach day", so even a lot of these individual groups may be people from different households congregating.

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2 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

So if every study and all data is useless what are you using to form your opinion?  

I don’t think the data shared in this thread/news is useless, but I also don’t think it’s been fair sided discussion. The folks that don’t agree with wearing some stupid ass mask seem to be silenced and shamed, but that’s life these days. Nobody can talk it through/listen to others views.

 

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Just now, Rvarookie said:

I don’t think the data shared in this thread/news is useless, but I also don’t think it’s been fair sided discussion. The folks that don’t agree with wearing some stupid ass mask seem to be silenced and shamed, but that’s life these days. Nobody can talk it through/listen to others views.

 

The data on masks is pretty clear, they reduce the risk of transmission if you’re in a place close to other people.  Don’t think that’s very controversial. 

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I think the most important thing to realize is... the disease spreads through the gathering of people. The more you can reduce the gathering of people, the more you'll reduce the spread. Pictures like that show exactly how new infections can still take place right now, and it wouldn't surprise me to discover that people that are going to the beaches are going to come down with it 1-2 weeks from now.

Not worth the risk IMO. I saw a hiking trail packed with people today, it would have been impossible to social distance. People breathing all over as they pass you by without masks. 

 

I turned around and went to a lighter populated trail.

This level of congregation is irresponsible IMO.

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2 minutes ago, supernovasky said:

That's the bigger problem. A lot of people don't realize... all these people have to use the bathroom somewhere. Water fountains, passing by each other without 6 feet of distance on piers, not wearing masks, going to the same stores beforehand nearby to purchase supplies, kids playing with other kids, picking things up that strangers drop.

 

And let's not forget just the simple act of gathering people who haven't hung out to "go hang out for a beach day", so even a lot of these individual groups may be people from different households congregating.

What if you are wrong? What if you are the one freaking out?

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1 minute ago, supernovasky said:

Masks shouldn't be controversial at all. Every place that's ever gotten this under control has had widespread mask adoption. 

This. Masks are more about protecting the people your around. I'm in a retail store 10 hours a day wearing a mask so its a little infuriating when someone doesnt want to wear a mask for the 20 minutes there in the store.

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I described my ordeal with pnemonia diagnosed 2/22 which was not ID as Covid. They helped me greatly at the Urgent Care and that “rescue inhaler” really cleared things up over a 7 day period. Last two days before and after starting it  were awful.

Now my insurance wants a retest or reexamination but Urgent Care won’t test not sick  people. I don’t know , trying to work it out. 

 

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3 hours ago, Rvarookie said:

I think at end of day there is no integrity in the data, but yet y’all sit here and freak out all day everyday. It’s clearly become a personal choice if someone wants to buy into the fear or take the risk that perhaps things may not be as portrayed. Just think at this point there’s not much integrity in any data from any country from any study, so nobody should pretend they have it all figured out

p sure you’re a troll we should ignore.

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5 hours ago, DCTeacherman said:

Another 2k+ deaths today, just extrapolating what the back side of the US curve might look like based on Italy, I can’t see how we’d end up averaging less than 1k per day for a good part or all of May.  Good chance we’ll be 80-90k by the end of May.  Really terrible but i don’t see how we just drop down super fast. 

I hope not, smh And dang...ya know it's bad when even on a weekend where the reported numbers are usually lower...still couldn't avoid 2k. Mercy...

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 Happy Sunday morning to you all, here’s my (unsolicited and likely unwelcome) offering as I peruse this thread, which I think has been really great overall. I appreciate  the  house “trolls”  who act as judgmental thought police for anyone’s opinion which differs from the mind-numbing state and media-promoted narrative of fear, or who expresses disagreement with indefinite continuance of states’ strangulation of the economic fortunes of millions. It’s very instructive for the many who are paying close attention to the same events. It highlights and is illustrative of the current Grand Canyon divide which exists in our country. Thus it is a good vehicle for learning and discussion. 

Carry on and have a good day.

Respectfully submitted from the “ perimeter”of trolling....cause it takes one to know one.

 

 

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