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11 minutes ago, schoeppeya said:

Lol

ETA: You and a couple other people attaching personal narratives to everything is what starts these huge derailments in this thread. 

Bottom line here is yes, winterwx21 is absolutely correct that physical fitness goes a long way to prevent covid from sending you to the hospital or killing you. On the other hand, “if you could just get your resting heart rate down to 32, covid will be nothing more than a mild cold” probably won’t be successful in getting many people off of their couches.

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4 hours ago, dta1984 said:

Looks like this is from the same study. Almost thought I was reading a headline for an article about the vaccine "reduce your risk of severe covid."

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/04/14/regular-exercise-can-reduce-your-risk-of-severe-covid-study.html

We're over a year in now. Plenty of time to have made healthier choices.  

Yeah, lots of articles have come out on this because it's a major new study. I will post one more, because in this article doctors explain the reasons why the exercise greatly reduces severe Covid risk. Like what happens to the lungs when you exercise, and why that helps you fight off respiratory diseases...

https://www.shape.com/fitness/tips/study-regular-exercise-lowered-risk-of-severe-covid-19

This study is getting a lot of attention because is shows such a strong association between activity level and severe Covid risk. Here is a quote from one of the study's authors...

"What surprised me the most from this study was the strength of the association between inactivity and poor outcomes from Covid-19," said study co-author Deborah Rohm Young.

"Even after we included variables such as obesity and smoking in the analysis, we still saw inactivity was strongly associated with much higher odds of hospitalization, ICU admission and death, compared with moderate physical activity or any activity at all," she added.  

And study author Dr. Robert Sallis added this...

"I continue to believe that exercise is medicine that everyone should take, especially in this era of Covid-19."

 

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So I'm assuming none of the canucks were fully vaccinated before the brazil variant took over the team?

I find it odd major sports teams upper management is putting pressure on the players to put out the  message that they are wanting to get vaccinated and that the public should. People shouldn't need a professional athlete telling them what to do, let alone an athlete being told what to do or say. A lot of athletes are reluctant to get vaccinated and have the viewpoint of winter and his elite status resting heart rate health. Now if children could get the vaccine, I could see the motive.

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7 hours ago, Wmsptwx said:

Got my second Pfizer shot Wednesday, arm really sore but that’s about it. Local hospital seems to have it down pretty good!

Just got the first Moderna shot today. Went to a local clinic, was in and out in 15 minutes after I didn’t keel over. 

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18 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

234k new cases in India the last 24 hours, over 3k deaths in Brazil. Those 2 countries are a mess right now. Going to be seeing some insane numbers in the next few weeks out of there.

I was reading that the number of cases in India is likely much higher because of the small proportion of people getting tested. It would almost certainly be the worst official outbreak in the world by far if testing was on pace with the US/Europe. And Brazil is a corrupt disaster as you pointed out with a clueless and corrupt president that openly mocks public safety measures, so what do you expect. The cramped and impoverished conditions that most in the cities there deal with makes it even worse. 

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24 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

234k new cases in India the last 24 hours, over 3k deaths in Brazil. Those 2 countries are a mess right now. Going to be seeing some insane numbers in the next few weeks out of there.

I have a feeling Brazil will surpass us in deaths when it’s all said and done. And they have less than 2/3 our population...

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5 minutes ago, TimB84 said:

I have a feeling Brazil will surpass us in deaths when it’s all said and done. And they have less than 2/3 our population...

For sure.  They might pass our death toll this summer at this rate.

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I was reading that the number of cases in India is likely much higher because of the small proportion of people getting tested. It would almost certainly be the worst official outbreak in the world by far if testing was on pace with the US/Europe. And Brazil is a corrupt disaster as you pointed out with a clueless and corrupt president that openly mocks public safety measures, so what do you expect. The cramped and impoverished conditions that most in the cities there deal with makes it even worse. 

Was thinking about this, https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/02/06/964527835/why-the-pandemic-is-10-times-worse-than-you-think, this article says that as of February we were catching about 1/4 of actual new infections.

 

What sort of estimate was given for the current percent surveillance for India? Sad to say, going to be some unimaginable suffering there, especially in the desperately impoverished areas. And Brazil is scary bad right now.

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, RCNYILWX said:

Was thinking about this, https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/02/06/964527835/why-the-pandemic-is-10-times-worse-than-you-think, this article says that as of February we were catching about 1/4 of actual new infections.

 

What sort of estimate was given for the current percent surveillance for India? Sad to say, going to be some unimaginable suffering there, especially in the desperately impoverished areas. And Brazil is scary bad right now.

 

 

 

Regarding Brazil, It actually looks like their caseload is starting to go back down. Still bad there regardless, going to pass US in per capita deaths next week.

https://www.covid19india.org/

India current positivity is 15-16%. Was only 8-9% at peak last summer. Both countries had initial spike in one area, Manaus for Brazil and Maharashtra state (which includes Mumbai) for India which quickly spread to the rest of the country. Both countries also have worse spreads than in their initial waves last year. Unlike with the US this winter their isn't a clear seasonal explanation.

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Have to say I think when all is said and done, the USA will have handled this the best. Have some Canadian counterparts (office in Mississauga) telling me that Ontario is pretty much under martial law (cops can pull you over to ask where you are going) and that even outdoor activities like golf are banned. Meanwhile a young person like myself was able to get fully vaccinated relatively easily B)

 

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12 minutes ago, nwohweather said:

Have to say I think when all is said and done, the USA will have handled this the best. Have some Canadian counterparts (office in Mississauga) telling me that Ontario is pretty much under martial law (cops can pull you over to ask where you are going) and that even outdoor activities like golf are banned. Meanwhile a young person like myself was able to get fully vaccinated relatively easily B)

 

We are among the best in handling vaccinations for sure.  There were plenty of mistakes earlier on though.

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28 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

We are among the best in handling vaccinations for sure.  There were plenty of mistakes earlier on though.

The average American has the memory of a goldfish. 

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50 minutes ago, WaryWarren said:

The average American has the memory of a goldfish. 

Indeed.

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We are among the best in handling vaccinations for sure.  There were plenty of mistakes earlier on though.

Oh absolutely. But we’ve overall done a great job juggling being open while keeping people safe.

I have a lot of coworkers in both Canada and Europe and it’s intriguing how much fascination they show in how life is here. Just a ton of fear and little hope over there, while even our President believes life will be normal completely by July 4th

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I will say too this thread continues to fascinate me. Politically I’m pretty down the middle but moving right before this occurred to a fairly conservative state I think affects my POV quite a bit. Even in conversations with family, they seem shocked at how open and chill it’s been around here

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2 hours ago, WaryWarren said:

The average American has the memory of a goldfish. 

Are you calling me Dori??  Wait....why did I ask you that??

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I’ve ditched masks and have had no issues so far since there is no longer a statewide mask mandate and nobody feels the need to waste time or lose a customer by confronting me about it.

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Fauci says U.S. will likely resume use of J&J Covid vaccine with a warning or restriction

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/18/fauci-us-will-likely-resume-use-of-jj-covid-vaccine-with-a-warning.html

...Fauci said he anticipates a decision on the J&J vaccine as soon as Friday, when the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s vaccine advisory panel meets to discuss resumption. 

“My estimate is that we will continue to use it in some form,” Fauci said during an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “I doubt very seriously if they just cancel it. I don’t think that’s going to happen. I do think that there will likely be some sort of warning or restriction or risk assessment...”

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Looks like cases are starting to fall again which is good news
 

It is! Hopefully more liberals on this thread stop buying into the panic porn and fear, and start believing real data.

Recent Gallup poll showed that 70% of registered Democrats believed the hospitalization rate was 20% or more, with 41% believing the rate was 50% or higher. The actual rate is obviously much lower.

Let’s focus on the science folks, things are getting much better overall with some bad pockets. Individually get your vaccine and get back to living your life
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19 minutes ago, nwohweather said:


It is! Hopefully more liberals on this thread stop buying into the panic porn and fear, and start believing real data.

Recent Gallup poll showed that 70% of registered Democrats believed the hospitalization rate was 20% or more, with 41% believing the rate was 50% or higher. The actual rate is obviously much lower.

Let’s focus on the science folks, things are getting much better overall with some bad pockets. Individually get your vaccine and get back to living your life

Deleted my post because I don’t want another knock down drag out about unrelated political issues like we had in here the other night, but suffice to say both sides of the media sell “panic porn and fear” about various issues and instill irrational fears into people, and if I remember correctly from reading about that poll, Republicans grossly underestimated the hospitalization rate. So it goes both ways.

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6 minutes ago, TimB84 said:

Deleted my post because I don’t want another knock down drag out about unrelated political issues like we had in here the other night, but suffice to say both sides of the media sell “panic porn and fear” about various issues and instill irrational fears into people, and if I remember correctly from reading about that poll, Republicans grossly underestimated the hospitalization rate. So it goes both ways.

That really is an unbelievable stat. That’s a sickening overestimation and so incredibly misinformed. The highest hospitalization rate I could find is .86 percent for 85+.... so I think I’m going to go out on a limb and say there’s not a whole lot of room for error on the downside. 

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