Coronavirus

[BuffaloWeather]

4 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

My co worker thinks there are chips inside of the vaccines lol

Heck , alot of people think that.

I really don't get the chip thing. I mean you're a police officer. Your car is tracked everywhere you go, also your cell phone is tracked everywhere you go. You're being constantly tracked either way. The chip thing literally makes zero sense. 

[yoda]

8 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

My co worker thinks there are chips inside of the vaccines lol

Heck , alot of people think that.

LOL

[yoda]

11 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Another idiot jumps into the thread with a stupid ass remark.

 

Uh no, you made the stupid remark.  You are a sworn officer of the law and are supposed to uphold it.  Your statement in the post I bolded goes against that

[BuffaloWeather]

You should still do your research before you take any medication or vaccine. My cousin was given Zpak when he contracted covid in January and he has Colitis. He ended up getting CDiff and was in the hospital for 7 days. Cdiff mortality rate is 4-6%. Why would they give him antibiotics for a viral infection? They only work against a bacterial infection. I texted my buddy who is a PA and he stated doctors give out antibiotics far too quickly.

I have another example of a doctor giving me meds far too quickly in January for some issues I was having as well, and ended up having pretty bad side effects. Sometimes the treatment is worse then the actual problem. Doctors treat the symptoms, not the root cause of the problem.

You should still always question everything, even medical professionals. 

[OSUmetstud]

Just now, BuffaloWeather said:

You should still do your research before you take any medication or vaccine. My cousin was given Zpack when he contracted covid in January and he has Colitis. He ended up getting CDiff and was in the hospital for 7 days. Cdiff mortality rate is 4-6%. Why would they give him antibiotics for a viral infection? They only work against a bacterial infection. I texted my buddy who is a PA and he stated doctors give out antibiotics far too quickly.

I have another example of a doctor giving me meds far too quickly in January for some issues I was having as well, and ended up having pretty bad side effects

You should still always question everything, even medical professionals. 

Dr. Daniel Griffin on his Twiv clinical update was complaining about some doctors still prescribing zpacks and/or steroids very early on in illness. Most covid deaths are covid deaths. They are not caused by secondary bacterial infection. 

[dta1984]

2 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said:

This won't help vaccine hesitancy. First they lied about the effectiveness and now this. Europe is going to be quite a bit behind the US as this was one of their primary vaccines. 

Clear link between AstraZeneca vaccine and rare blood clots in brain, EMA official tells paper

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-astrazeneca-vaccin/clear-link-between-astrazeneca-vaccine-and-rare-blood-clots-in-brain-ema-official-tells-paper-idUSKBN2BT1ER?utm_source=reddit.com

This got buried quickly.

[yoda]

3 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

This got buried quickly.

This got buried quickly

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Cavaleri provided no evidence to support his comment

The EMA has repeatedly said the benefits of the AstraZeneca shot outweigh the risks as it investigates 44 reports of an extremely rare brain clotting ailment known as cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) out of 9.2 million people in the European Economic Area who have received the vaccine.

[TimB84]

5 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

This got buried quickly.

Also there are three other vaccines that don’t have that potential issue.

[BuffaloWeather]

2 minutes ago, yoda said:

This got buried quickly

I say the benefits outweigh the risk for the older population. There is no way I'm taking that vaccine if there is even a small chance of a blood clot in my brain. For those under 40 I would argue that statement. 

[yoda]

1 minute ago, BuffaloWeather said:

I say the benefits outweigh the risk for the older population. There is no way I'm taking that vaccine if there is even a small chance of a blood clot in my brain. For those under 40 I would argue that statement. 

So... you aren't going to fly then?  Drive?

[OSUmetstud]

Just now, yoda said:

This got buried quickly

There's reason to be skeptical on that vaccine, specifically for younger women. There's enough evidence that Canada pulled approval for those under 55. There's some reports that the incidence of the SVTs be as high as 1 in 100000. I hope they figure it out because it's a hugely important vaccine for europe and the world in general. It's a cheap vaccine sold at cost and can be stored at fridge temps. Thats the vaccine that was likely going to be used in Africa and the Middle East and the poorer areas in the world. 

[OSUmetstud]

Just now, yoda said:

So... you aren't going to fly then?  Drive?

He could just get a US approved vaccine. This one is not lol. 

[BuffaloWeather]

5 minutes ago, yoda said:

So... you aren't going to fly then?  Drive?

A dumb counter argument. Are you not going to eat fast food because it causes high blood pressure or to be overweight? Are you not going to go out in the sun because you can get skin cancer? Covid presents very little risk to me. Most of the people I know got the sniffles/cold. Either way, I have my Pfizer shot on Saturday. 

[dta1984]

9 minutes ago, TimB84 said:

Also there are three other vaccines that don’t have that potential issue.

Well yes..

[OSUmetstud]

1 minute ago, BuffaloWeather said:

A dumb counter argument. Are you not going to eat fast food because it causes high blood pressure or to be overweight? Are you not going to go out in the sun because you can get skin cancer? Covid presents very little risk to me. Most of the people I know got the sniffles/cold. I have my Pfizer shot on Saturday. 

The dumb argument was that you literally cant get that vaccine in the US lol. I'd still suggest that if it were the only vaccine available and you were in area of high community prevalence of the virus, it would be safer to "take a chance" with that vaccine than to take a chance with the virus. That complication is considerably more rare than the covid death rate of people our age. 

[TimB84]

1 minute ago, OSUmetstud said:

The dumb argument was that you literally cant get that vaccine in the US lol. I'd still suggest that if it were the only vaccine available and you were in area of high community prevalence of the virus, it would be safer to "take a chance" with that vaccine than to take a chance with the virus. That complication is considerably more rare than the covid death rate of people our age. 

The anti-vax crowd suddenly cares about the people of Africa and poorer regions of the world, despite never having thought of those people once in all of their previous decades on earth.

[dta1984]

30 minutes ago, TimB84 said:

“Snoops on.” Those people are American heroes if you ask me.

Ok "investigate" but, heroes?  Man come on.  I really hope you're just trying too hard here.  This isn't "everyone gets a participation trophy.". There are actual ones who put their lives on the line who are "heroes." 

[StormfanaticInd]

[TimB84]

3 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

Ok "investigate" but, heroes?  Man come on.  I really hope you're just trying too hard here.  This isn't "everyone gets a participation trophy.". There are actual ones who put their lives on the line who are "heroes." 

Do they save lives? Yep. Then they’re heroes. Also, I don’t know why this suddenly morphed into participation trophies in your mind. You’re all too quick to use buzz words that you think will “trigger” people with opposing viewpoints, even when it has nothing to do with what is being discussed. That’s what trolls do.

[OSUmetstud]

4 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said:

ugh man that guy is the worst. Such a fear monger. This happened in the original SARS too. 

[MJO812]

36 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

I really don't get the chip thing. I mean you're a police officer. Your car is tracked everywhere you go, also your cell phone is tracked everywhere you go. You're being constantly tracked either way. The chip thing literally makes zero sense. 

I agree

These theories  are idiotic 

31 minutes ago, yoda said:

Uh no, you made the stupid remark.  You are a sworn officer of the law and are supposed to uphold it.  Your statement in the post I bolded goes against that

What does my job have to do with the population getting a vaccine ? I have a bridge to sell you if you think everyone in this country  is going to get a shot.

[yoda]

2 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

I agree

These theories  are idiotic 

What does my job have to do with the population getting a vaccine ? I have a bridge to sell you if you think everyone in this country  is going to get a shot.

Nothing,  You stated "No one should force you to do anything you don't want to do."  So if you pull over a motorist and he tells you that, are you just going to agree and let him go on his way?

[schoeppeya]

11 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said:

I laughed out loud. Drop your deuces inside of bags people, it saves lives. 

[dta1984]

1 minute ago, yoda said:

Nothing,  You stated "No one should force you to do anything you don't want to do."  So if you pull over a motorist and he tells you that, are you just going to agree and let him go on his way?

Lol a bit of a stretch.  One thing is a law, the other is something that is voluntary. 

[dta1984]

12 minutes ago, TimB84 said:

Do they save lives? Yep. Then they’re heroes. Also, I don’t know why this suddenly morphed into participation trophies in your mind. You’re all too quick to use buzz words that you think will “trigger” people with opposing viewpoints, even when it has nothing to do with what is being discussed. That’s what trolls do.

Seems like you're triggered.  A covid taskforce saves lives?  I mean, maybe, but that's stretching it.  The other examples of heroes are not stretching it and are factual.  

[TimB84]

3 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

Seems like you're triggered.  A covid taskforce saves lives?  I mean, maybe, but that's stretching it.  The other examples of heroes are not stretching it and are factual.  

Factual? No matter who you’re calling a hero, it’s an opinion. Whether it’s a soldier, a paramedic, a firefighter, a policeman, Sully Sullenberger, the passengers of Flight 93, the guys who got Bin Laden, your grandfather, a teacher, Obama, Trump, a covid task force, whoever, it’s nothing more than an opinion.

[MJO812]

9 minutes ago, yoda said:

Nothing,  You stated "No one should force you to do anything you don't want to do."  So if you pull over a motorist and he tells you that, are you just going to agree and let him go on his way?

Are you really comparing the two ?

7 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

Lol a bit of a stretch.  One thing is a law, the other is something that is voluntary. 

Exactly 

[MJO812]

4 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

Seems like you're triggered.  A covid taskforce saves lives?  I mean, maybe, but that's stretching it.  The other examples of heroes are not stretching it and are factual.  

Its up to the individual if they want to listen to the task force and many people didn't and died.

[yoda]

18 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

Lol a bit of a stretch.  One thing is a law, the other is something that is voluntary. 

Nope... that's what many people think and claim... look up sovereign citizens.  And look up all the posts/tweets/opinions of the people who don't want vaccine cards and the such.  They claim "government overreach" in regards to that.

10 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Are you really comparing the two ?

Exactly 

Yes I am

[dta1984]

11 minutes ago, TimB84 said:

Factual? No matter who you’re calling a hero, it’s an opinion. Whether it’s a soldier, a paramedic, a firefighter, a policeman, Sully Sullenberger, the passengers of Flight 93, the guys who got Bin Laden, your grandfather, a teacher, Obama, Trump, a covid task force, whoever, it’s nothing more than an opinion.

Ok, yes, it's your opinion.  I am not denying the task force saves lives, I did say maybe.   It's just not the same as some of your other examples who do in fact save lives.