HVSnowLover Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, kingbaus said: What hour are you up to? 48 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYCweatherNOW Posted December 1, 2019 Garbage run... could happen icon has been hinting at this throughout the whole week. We just got unNam’d Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danstorm Posted December 1, 2019 NAM is a strung out POS 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HVSnowLover Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, NYCweatherNOW said: Garbage run... could happen icon has been hinting at this throughout the whole week. We just got unNam’d Finally gets a little actual snow into the city at 54 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rclab Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Brasiluvsnow said: 88, Bensonhurst 84th street 19th avenue , apartment house , I would watch the streetlight whenever it snowed. 40’s, 50’s and early 60’s I lived off of 11th Avenue on 75th street, Bay Ridge Parkway. We still had power lines on the big wood telephone poles, one was in front of my house with the street light. I remember when those first street lights were installed. I had to angle my view with a tree branch to cut the glare. I remember sneaking a call to We6-1212 to get the latest temperature. Memories swirling in a shaken snow globe. As always ... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HVSnowLover Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, danstorm said: NAM is a strung out POS NAM doesn't show a band at all anywhere until you get to eastern NE, the low seems too far east and weak to have any real impact for this area Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJsnow89 Posted December 1, 2019 Not bad for NE. But terrible for our area. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USCG RS Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, HVSnowLover said: NAM doesn't show a band at all anywhere, the low seems too far east and weak to have any real impact It never consolidates the energy from what I can see. It also appears that the kicker 'kicks' or repels vs phasing a bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYCweatherNOW Posted December 1, 2019 Guys it still manages to hit us with 3-6 that’s not too bad for December 1-2nd it gets going late also New England isn’t too happy with the run! They’re expecting a historic storm and they just got a secs of that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYCweatherNOW Posted December 1, 2019 The confluence is very strong on this run. No precip goes north of Bangor Maine if that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EasternLI Posted December 1, 2019 Awfully dry air at H7 that nam run. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJsnow89 Posted December 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, NYCweatherNOW said: Guys it still manages to hit us with 3-6 that’s not too bad for December 1-2nd it gets going late also New England isn’t too happy with the run! They’re expecting a historic storm and they just got a secs of that It’s still a terrible run for our area. We need it to get going faster. NE is CRUSHED! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma Posted December 1, 2019 People are surprised by the NAM? We can't get a worse setup for a meaningful snowfall in these parts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYCweatherNOW Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, Enigma said: People are surprised by the NAM? We can't get a worse setup for a meaningful snowfall in these parts. You called for half inch for Central Park I doubt you’ll be wrong lol nam still shows warning snows Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danstorm Posted December 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, NYCweatherNOW said: Guys it still manages to hit us with 3-6 that’s not too bad for December 1-2nd I actually gave up on it, you're right, there is a period of snow at 51-57 hr that may salvage a decent event. We'll see - certainly doesn't seem to come together fast enough Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HVSnowLover Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, NYCweatherNOW said: You called for half inch for Central Park I doubt you’ll be wrong lol nam still shows warning snows There is no way NYC would actually get warning snow if that run played out like that. NYC is going to need heavy precip to get warning snow with temps that marginal and a wet ground Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MJO812 Posted December 1, 2019 H5 looked good. Weird run. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYCweatherNOW Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, HVSnowLover said: There is no way NYC would actually get warning snow if that run played out like that. NYC is going to need heavy precip to get warning snow with temps that marginal and a wet ground That was heavy snow for 6 straight hours. U can get great growth with no wind and tumbling temps! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USCG RS Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, Snow88 said: H5 looked good. Weird run. Here's the thing -and this is strictly my opinion- there is blocking in the Atlantic. H5 also looked significantly different from the surface projections. I would say the NAM is having issues regarding when and where to consolidate the energy. While I would not go as far as to discount it currently, I would say that I would like to see the rest of 00z suite, specifically the RGEM. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
White Gorilla Posted December 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, USCG RS said: Here's the thing -and this is strictly my opinion- there is blocking in the Atlantic. H5 also looked significantly different from the surface projections. I would say the NAM is having issues regarding when and where to consolidate the energy. While I would not go as far as to discount it currently, I would say that I would like to see the rest of 00z suite, specifically the RGEM. Has the NAM historically had hiccup runs like this with complex systems inside 48? We know that the crazy uncle often goes wild with too much qpf, but the other direction? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CIK62 Posted December 1, 2019 The GFS has Manhattan at 34 to 46 during the duration of the storm. Even the Albany District barely stays below 32 for the duration. At any rate the EURO 18Z is around 7" still. The CMC 12Z was 6". SREF is 4". GFS is hard on itself and has less than 1". The 18Z NAM by the Cobb Method is 13"+, while the GFS is all Rain, nearly 2" is wasted In our biggest snowstorm ever, about 5 years ago, the NAM was spitting out some 40"+ Cobb Method runs. So we did get 30.5" at JFK. btw: The Cobb Method for Albany is NAM 23", GFS 9". Official: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USCG RS Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, White Gorilla said: Has the NAM historically had hiccup runs like this with complex systems inside 48? We know that the crazy uncle often goes wild with too much qpf, but the other direction? It has. It tends to be rather fickle due to the manner in which it was designed. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbaus Posted December 1, 2019 3k nam is horrendous. dry spot city 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthShoreWx Posted December 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, psv88 said: Thanks man. When you moving back to LB? Never lived there. 40.88N is as far south as I go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfklganyc Posted December 1, 2019 40 minutes ago, Brasiluvsnow said: my old man woke me up during the Blizzard of 78 must of been 2 in the morning , he said " sorry to wake you up but you have to take a look at this" and he had me look at the streetlight outside my window but the lite right across the street was very hard to see and I could not make out the building across the street. He said "take a good look you might not ever see it snow this hard again in your lifetime " he was right I think that was the hardest I ever saw it snow We lived in Astoria for the big el Nino blizzard a few years ago and I could quote your father. You know when you’re looking at something that’s going to come around once in your lifetime. You just know 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psv88 Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, NorthShoreWx said: Never lived there. 40.88N is as far south as I go. Haha my bad I meant that for @jm1220, he needs to leave Suffolk so we can snow again 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
White Gorilla Posted December 1, 2019 Any word on the SREF plumes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jm1220 Posted December 1, 2019 Same overall situation applies as 3 days ago. We’re the poodles begging for table strips from the upper low, Boston on west I-90 and much of upstate NY feasts on the 25-lb turkey, stuffing, potatoes, pies, cranberry sauce, cookies, etc. The NAM, Euro earlier snuck us down a drumstick and mushed up pumpkin pie no one else wanted. I guess this run is the drool from the remainder of the raccoon and stray cat slaughtered carcass. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthShoreWx Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, jm1220 said: Same overall situation applies as 3 days ago. We’re the poodles begging for table strips from the upper low, Boston on west I-90 and much of upstate NY feasts on the 25-lb turkey, stuffing, potatoes, pies, cranberry sauce, cookies, etc. The NAM, Euro earlier snuck us down a drumstick and mushed up pumpkin pie no one else wanted. I guess this run is the drool from the remainder of the raccoon and stray cat slaughtered carcass. My friend's poodle does that ... and it's fat! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites