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Autumn/Winter 2019-2020 Banter/Complaint Thread

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9 minutes ago, IWXwx said:

FWA is off to a good start with 6.9".  They should be comfortably into double figures by the end of the month, especially since it appears that whoever is measuring is liberal, as I am nearby and only have recorded 4.2", and I clear the board every six hours and when the snow ends, per protocol.

It surprised me that ORD is sitting at only 3.7".  It's unusual for Chicago to be behind us, but things will even out as time goes by.

ORD has 8.4".  I think you are looking at only the November total but ORD also had the late October storm.  

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Just now, Hoosier said:

ORD has 8.4".  I think you are looking at only the November total but ORD also had the late October storm.  

You're right. I forgot about that. I was only looking at November. So if they're at 8.4", double digits by the end of the month is a no-brainer.

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4 hours ago, beavis1729 said:

:lmao:

Serious question for a die hard winter guy like yourself.  Which would you rather have, the type of regime we've been in lately or something really torchy like a run of 10-15+ above average?  Have to pick one.

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1 hour ago, Hoosier said:

Serious question for a die hard winter guy like yourself.  Which would you rather have, the type of regime we've been in lately or something really torchy like a run of 10-15+ above average?  Have to pick one.

Ugh...if I had to pick one, it would be the current regime, because it’s at least a bit more of a wintry feel than 10-15+ above average temps. More wintry is always better...even if we are talking a score of 5 out of 100 vs. 2 out of 100.

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15 minutes ago, beavis1729 said:

Ugh...if I had to pick one, it would be the current regime, because it’s at least a bit more of a wintry feel than 10-15+ above average temps. More wintry is always better...even if we are talking a score of 5 out of 100 vs. 2 out of 100.

Had a feeling you might say something like that, but wasn't sure.  There are definitely people who are in the camp of "if it's not going to snow it might as well torch" 

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8 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Had a feeling you might say something like that, but wasn't sure.  There are definitely people who are in the camp of "if it's not going to snow it might as well torch" 

I am with beavis. At least it's been chilly outside. We had off and on flakes throughout the week. It's annoying that we were buried in beautiful deep snow in mid November and have nothing on the ground in early December, but but give me cold and gray any day over torch.

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10 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Had a feeling you might say something like that, but wasn't sure.  There are definitely people who are in the camp of "if it's not going to snow it might as well torch" 

Another “good” thing about the current regime is that snowpack is building north of about 44N. If we were torching, we’d lose that snowpack too...which would make a bad situation even worse. 

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And I'll add that this week's chill should put some more ice on ponds, and take more warmth out of the soils. All good things as we step down into what hopefully will be a snowier back half of the month, despite the week 3&4 outlook NOAA's clinging to attm. 

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December has sort of developed a reputation for sucking, or at least not being as good as other winter months.  Is there any truth to that?  Well, here are composite temperature maps of the last 20 Decembers, Januaries and Februaries.  1999-2018 was used for December since December 2019 is obviously ongoing. 

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While those maps tell the temps part of the story, I'm more concerned about snowfall (or lack of it). The past (6) Decembers here have such a wide swing in totals, yet when averaged equal 12.96" per year. 

My long-term Dec avg? 13.0"

Snow wise, the month has become bi-polar to the extreme lately with as little as 1.2" in 2014 to 27.6" three years later.  I'm not sure there's any such thing as a "normal" December any more.  

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Yeah it would've been interesting to do composite snowfall maps for each of those months, but not sure how to do that.  Despite the December temp composite running on the warm side (around/over 1F warmer than 1981-2010 averages in much of the Midwest for a 20 year composite is actually kinda noteworthy), I suspect a December snow composite over the same period would be closer to if not a bit snowier than average in some areas as there has been a wildly snowy December or two... 2000 immediately comes to mind.

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1 hour ago, Hoosier said:

Yeah it would've been interesting to do composite snowfall maps for each of those months, but not sure how to do that.  Despite the December temp composite running on the warm side (around/over 1F warmer than 1981-2010 averages in much of the Midwest for a 20 year composite is actually kinda noteworthy), I suspect a December snow composite over the same period would be closer to if not a bit snowier than average in some areas as there has been a wildly snowy December or two... 2000 immediately comes to mind.

Not surprising since we've seen a lot of "snowless" Decembers over the past 20 years. I'm sure years like 2018, 2015, 2011 and 2006 come to mind. However, when you consider some of the more snowier Decembers, a majority of them were La Nina's (2000, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2016 and 2017). 

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The storm early next week is looking like a nuisance for some of us and there's legit nothing else between now and Christmas either. 

I have a feeling this thread will become quite active in the coming days, lol. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Stebo said:

If split flow is the theme for this winter then we can just jet right to April.

Make that mid May. Aprils still suck especially last year

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1 hour ago, Stebo said:

If split flow is the theme for this winter then we can just jet right to April.

I reckon, split flows are more common in Nino's. 

Then again, shit Decembers have been a common thing in recent years. What matters is Jan-Mar. 

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43 minutes ago, hlcater said:

where we can have split flow in April to maximize suffering.

Why must you put this evil upon this forum :devilsmiley::facepalm::axe::yikes::lol:

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*clears throat*

So after this upcoming storm, almost no location north of I-70 (and maybe even a little south of there) will have less snow than me.  :facepalm:

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6 hours ago, Hoosier said:

*clears throat*

So after this upcoming storm, almost no location north of I-70 (and maybe even a little south of there) will have less snow than me.  :facepalm:

Could pinger town finally have it's it's vengeance?  

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