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The Pope's 'And There You Have It" SWFE Feb 7 2018


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12 minutes ago, jbenedet said:

@Damage In Tolland

 

Seriously, is this where you live? That's a max of 41F.

http://w1.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KIJD.html

IJD and Tolland are 2 completely separate climates. Like not even close. They are a valley pit that downslopes from 3 directions. My climate is akin to ORH but to a lesser degree. Elevated interior. 

At any rate, the entire CT valley in CT stayed at or below freezing the entire event. The warmerst I got at 1k was 34.9 for 1 hour. At 6:00 it went above freezing and by 7:15 it was back below with zr at 31.1. It had nothing to do with the surface warm front which only made into SE Mass. The low tracked over LI to GON to south of Boston. Will and Brian both pointed out it was from mixing ahead of the cold front. 

Its great to challenge ideas and try to out think models, but it’s another thing to accuse people of making things up . Especially when you are completely unfamiliar with CT Climo and climates. It’s good that you were able to learn from this, but you were incorrect in several of your post Mortem points. 

Hopefully we have more events left in what’s turned out to be a mediocre winter 

 

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49 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

IJD and Tolland are 2 completely separate climates. Like not even close. They are a valley pit that downslopes from 3 directions. My climate is akin to ORH but to a lesser degree. Elevated interior. 

At any rate, the entire CT valley in CT stayed at or below freezing the entire event. The warmerst I got at 1k was 34.9 for 1 hour. At 6:00 it went above freezing and by 7:15 it was back below with zr at 31.1. It had nothing to do with the surface warm front which only made into SE Mass. The low tracked over LI to GON to south of Boston. Will and Brian both pointed out it was from mixing ahead of the cold front. 

Its great to challenge ideas and try to out think models, but it’s another thing to accuse people of making things up . Especially when you are completely unfamiliar with CT Climo and climates. It’s good that you were able to learn from this, but you were incorrect in several of your post Mortem points. 

Hopefully we have more events left in what’s turned out to be a mediocre winter 

 

I'm not going to debate any of these details with you. It's simply not worth it. We don't see eye to eye on a lot of this stuff, and I don't expect that to change now.

Whether you agree or not, the key point i made regarding the surface CF is relevant as ever, and my 20 mile NW error makes perfect sense given the difference of temperatures in IJD 41F versus your backyard 35F and the duration of temps above freezing (7 hours versus 2 hrs, respectively). The furthest northwest the surface cold front made it was over your head, to ORH up to Seabrook NH. I had it going about 20 miles further NW before crashing back southeast. 

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33 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

IJD and Tolland are 2 completely separate climates. Like not even close. They are a valley pit that downslopes from 3 directions. My climate is akin to ORH but to a lesser degree. Elevated interior. 

At any rate, the entire CT valley in CT stayed at or below freezing the entire event. The warmerst I got at 1k was 34.9 for 1 hour. At 6:00 it went above freezing and by 7:15 it was back below with zr at 31.1. It had nothing to do with the surface warm front which only made into SE Mass. The low tracked over LI to GON to south of Boston. Will and Brian both pointed out it was from mixing ahead of the cold front. 

Its great to challenge ideas and try to out think models, but it’s another thing to accuse people of making things up . Especially when you are completely unfamiliar with CT Climo and climates. It’s good that you were able to learn from this, but you were incorrect in several of your post Mortem points. 

Hopefully we have more events left in what’s turned out to be a mediocre winter 

 

Mediocre winter? We've had a white Christmas, 12''+ blizzard, nickels and dimes all over the place, multiple legitimate ZR events, and days and days of severe cold. It's not mediocre it needs to freaking end. 

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Always interesting comparing to the local cocorahs guys. Multiple buns to the Northfield guy with over an inch more of snow and much less liquid. 

Northfield 2.8E 9.5”/0.70”

Tilton-Northfield 3.3NE 8.5”/1.04”

Belmont 1.7SW 8.8”/1.09”

Northfield 1W (me) 8.1”/0.95”

Looks like we had a good 1”/0.10” less than those sites a handful of miles west near Franklin. 

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6 minutes ago, DomNH said:

Mediocre winter? We've had a white Christmas, 12''+ blizzard, nickels and dimes all over the place, multiple legitimate ZR events, and days and days of severe cold. It's not mediocre it needs to freaking end. 

This...and for anyone that's mad at me I was kidding yesterday I love this site I guess my sense of humor is bad no hard feelings 

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1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

Lets do this!

 

All across New England, there is the sound of scraping, shoveling, gear being loaded and vehicles being started. It's officially a powder day.

Overnight we picked up four inches of fluffy stuff on top of the six we saw during the day yesterday for a storm total of 10-12 inches and a one-week total of nearly two feet. The skies are clearing this morning and we are looking at a perfect day of skiing and riding. There's not much more to be said about it. If you're the kind of person who reads this report, then it's going to be the kind of day you dream about. This is the report you've been waiting for. Call in sick, get a note, "work from home", do whatever you have to, but get here now

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7 minutes ago, DomNH said:

Mediocre winter? We've had a white Christmas, 12''+ blizzard, nickels and dimes all over the place, multiple legitimate ZR events, and days and days of severe cold. It's not mediocre it needs to freaking end. 

He predicted a ratter before the season so there may be some spinning starting to initiate...a little bit of helicity over KTOL. 

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7 minutes ago, DomNH said:

Mediocre winter? We've had a white Christmas, 12''+ blizzard, nickels and dimes all over the place, multiple legitimate ZR events, and days and days of severe cold. It's not mediocre it needs to freaking end. 

It’s been better in NNE. I don’t think anyone in SNE thinks it’s been a great winter. There’s been plenty of events , so it’s been fun .. but if it continues the rest of the way as it has,, and we come in BN on snowfall, it will be remembered as mediocre 

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Just now, Damage In Tolland said:

It’s been better in NNE. I don’t think anyone in SNE thinks it’s been a great winter. There’s been plenty of events , so it’s been fun .. but if it continues the rest of the way as it has,, and we come in BN on snowfall, it will be remembered as mediocre 

What are you at compared to normal right now? You can’t be too far off. Heck you’re probably above normal season-to-date so far. 

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Just now, tamarack said:

I'm guessing that's 2/7 before the snow started.  My total for that period, 2/7's 0.97" LE included, is 6.76".    Got 9.0" yesterday, 2/3 coming in 4 hr 5-9 PM.  Total now 6" AN for the date, 23" pack also +6" from avg.

We expected this gradient winter, you guys should be rocking well into March

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1 minute ago, dendrite said:

They never warm sectored like TAN. There was that brief little spike to 42F with the FROPA when the pressure began to rise and the westerlies kicked in, but that was it.

And a beautiful warm-air intrusion it was.  Was able to step outside without fear of breaking my neck on any snow/ice.

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