Winter model mehhem or mayhem nature will decide

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1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

Euro is gonna try I think. May not be like yesterday..but seems better than 00z. 

I would want something in between.

[CoastalWx]

It's trying....Really going negative quick.

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1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

It's trying....Really going negative quick.

Even the 00z GFS almost backed it west of due N for a time....need to watch that.

[Damage In Tolland]

 

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Just now, CoastalWx said:

It's trying....Really going negative quick.

[RUNNAWAYICEBERG]

I dont see much improvements. The northern stream is flying across canada. 

[CoastalWx]

Marked improvement I thought. 

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Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

I dont see any improvements. The northern stream is flying across canada. 

Spiked eggnog.

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[CoastalWx]

If the nrn stream slowed a tad and srn stream hung west a tad..it would be close to a James solution. At least in my eyes.

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1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

Marked improvement I thought. 

we defer to you, obviously...looks like dog poo to me with how proggy the trough is. 

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Just now, CoastalWx said:

If the nrn stream slowed a tad and srn stream hung west a tad..it would be close to a James solution. At least in my eyes.

Agreed.

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1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Spiked eggnog.

Never gonna get a bomb solution with a northern low screaming across the Great Lakes, imo. 

[Hoth]

When can we expect this energy to be decently sampled? In a data sparse region ATM, correct?

[CoastalWx]

Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

we defer to you, obviously...looks like dog poo to me with how proggy the trough is. 

The nrn stream is fast, agreed. But I guess looking at 0z vs 12z...I like how 12z kept a concise nrn stream s/w and srn stream s/w. 00z has that hang back tail of vorticity that can be tough to straighten out in time.

[mahk_webstah]

That's a pretty strong hi in the North Atlantic With that tend to push the storm back to the west of it?

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1 minute ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Never gonna get a bomb solution with a northern low screaming across the Great Lakes, imo. 

Its all about timing, and it wasn't far off.

Unlikely, sure...always is.

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1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

The nrn stream is fast, agreed. But I guess looking at 0z vs 12z...I like how 12z kept a concise nrn stream s/w and srn stream s/w. 00z has that hang back tail of vorticity that can be tough to straighten out in time.

The s stream was diffuse at 00z.

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5 minutes ago, Hoth said:

When can we expect this energy to be decently sampled? In a data sparse region ATM, correct?

Euro would suggest the "southern" stream wave is hanging around the Yukon right now, but the northern stream wave is still over the Pacific and not forecast to come over land until possibly as late as 12z Mon.

[Ginx snewx]

This is Feb 1979 redeaux ugh

[Hoth]

Just now, OceanStWx said:

Euro would suggest the "southern" stream wave is hanging around the Yukon right now, but the northern stream wave is still over the Pacific and not forecast to come over land until possibly as late as 12z Mon.

Great, gracias.

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1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said:

This is Feb 1979 redeaux ugh

Minus the historic mid atl blizzard.

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1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Minus the historic mid atl blizzard.

25 inches 5"/h at times. Most intense rates of my life kdov

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2 minutes ago, mahk_webstah said:

25 inches 5"/h at times. Most intense rates of my life kdov

I dont recall a Feb 1979 blizzard, where was it exactly?

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Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

I dont recall a Feb 1979 blizzard, where was it exactly?

In the mid atlantic on president's day.

[mahk_webstah]

 A full on heavy blizzard at least for Delaware and I think Baltimore-Washington up to about Philadelphia and across South Jersey. In the days before it was forecast be a week low out to seA by the weather models at times. But a forecastersomewhere look at the set up and predicted a heavy snowstorm for the middle Atlantic. There's an article on that somewhere.

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1 minute ago, mahk_webstah said:

 A full on heavy blizzard at least for Delaware and I think Baltimore-Washington up to about Philadelphia and across South Jersey. In the days before it was forecast be a week low out to seA by the weather models at times. But a forecastersomewhere look at the set up and predicted a heavy snowstorm for the middle Atlantic. There's an article on that somewhere.

I believe they had 15" on the Brooklyn beaches, 8" in The Bronx.  The immortal PDI

[mahk_webstah]

I also remember that it was an extremely coldFebruary in Dover Delaware. I think the blizzard came at the end of that arctic outbreak 

[RUNNAWAYICEBERG]

So really, that was PD2 and 2003 was PD3. 

[mahk_webstah]

2 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

So really, that was PD2 and 2003 was PD3. 

No. PD one was 1979 and pd 2twas 2003No.