beavis1729 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Hoosier said: Northern WI varies a lot. The "southern" part of northern WI averages about 50-60", but it's more like 75-100"+ as you get closer to the lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 18 minutes ago, beavis1729 said: I'd definitely put more stock in those local maps compared to the regional/national ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Nasty, raw day with the rain. Just a bit too much low level warmth for snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Yep, this the kind of day I think of when I think of mid-November. Dark, dreary, blustery, 36° and a cold rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 It amazes me how much less snow Wisconsin averages than Michigan. I have no idea how local snowmobilers avoid having to trek up to the UP by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Hoosier said: Nasty, raw day with the rain. Just a bit too much low level warmth for snow. Had a brief period of ice falling with the rain during heavier returns about 2:30 and yeah, a few went down my shirt. #rawisright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 An close (negative) match with the AO 1000mb pattern will lead to a large negative AO in about a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Snowing pretty well here. Should easily pick up an inch or so before this is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmillzz Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 A prolonged east ridge west trough regime during a nina event, smh. I really feel as if the only explanation for that is climate change due to the arctic heating up so much and the pacific waters being so warm, it somehow manages to force a trough down the eastern half of the CONUS. Just very VERY bad luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmillzz Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 The Aleutian ridge is completely unnatural, it absolutely should not be that strong in the first place, along with the ridiculous warm blob that always forces a ridge to appear out of nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Jonger said: It amazes me how much less snow Wisconsin averages than Michigan. I have no idea how local snowmobilers avoid having to trek up to the UP by default. True, but central and northern WI preserves snow pack fairly well. In January, normal highs are 20-25 and normal lows are 0-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 38 minutes ago, beavis1729 said: True, but central and northern WI preserves snow pack fairly well. In January, normal highs are 20-25 and normal lows are 0-5. Heck, even we preserve snowpack fairly well in east central Iowa. I can't give you a number but we normally don't have an issue for preserving snow AT LEAST 10(or more) days. I don't know any snowmobiles that have complained outside of the last 2 awful winters, and even then they had opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slow poke Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 42 minutes ago, NWLinnCountyIA said: Heck, even we preserve snowpack fairly well in east central Iowa. I can't give you a number but we normally don't have an issue for preserving snow AT LEAST 10(or more) days. I don't know any snowmobiles that have complained outside of the last 2 awful winters, and even then they had opportunities. We've been driving out west along I-80 from south east MI to WY snowmobiling each February for years. Most of the time when we leave MI there is snow on the ground, almost like a switch as soon as we cross into IN it's almost always brown with bare ground. Most of the time we won't see much snow again till we get to that first pass about 2 hours into WY. Not every year is like this but definitely more times than not this is the case. Again, this is along I-80 only and only what we seem to encounter on our trip every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 18 minutes ago, slow poke said: We've been driving out west along I-80 from south east MI to WY snowmobiling each February for years. Most of the time when we leave MI there is snow on the ground, almost like a switch as soon as we cross into IN it's almost always brown with bare ground. Most of the time we won't see much snow again till we get to that first pass about 2 hours into WY. Not every year is like this but definitely more times than not this is the case. Again, this is along I-80 only and only what we seem to encounter on our trip every year. I know what you mean. I-94 seems to be the cutoff where snow just gets wiped out with normal temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hlcater Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 hours ago, slow poke said: We've been driving out west along I-80 from south east MI to WY snowmobiling each February for years. Most of the time when we leave MI there is snow on the ground, almost like a switch as soon as we cross into IN it's almost always brown with bare ground. Most of the time we won't see much snow again till we get to that first pass about 2 hours into WY. Not every year is like this but definitely more times than not this is the case. Again, this is along I-80 only and only what we seem to encounter on our trip every year. The last 2 have been rough out here as mentioned, and have been rough in the plains for 5+ years. Obviously depends on what time during February you go out there as well, with it being increasingly difficult to hold onto snowfall as February progresses. I'd bet we can't even hold onto snowfall for an average of 3-4 days by the end of the month. Can't speak for the plains, but I do know that they've been having it rough since 2010 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 DVN on the board now with 0.1" of snow measured today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 12 hours ago, NWLinnCountyIA said: Heck, even we preserve snowpack fairly well in east central Iowa. I can't give you a number but we normally don't have an issue for preserving snow AT LEAST 10(or more) days. I don't know any snowmobiles that have complained outside of the last 2 awful winters, and even then they had opportunities. But that is a very low bar. I am talking about 60+ days of consistent snowcover through the heart of winter, i.e. Dec. 15th to Feb. 15th. In WI north of 45N, they do it pretty much every year. But I think Chicago has only done this once (winter of 1978-79). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 15 hours ago, Jonger said: It amazes me how much less snow Wisconsin averages than Michigan. I have no idea how local snowmobilers avoid having to trek up to the UP by default. Couldn't pay me to trailer 7+ hrs to trail ride in the UP on a weekend in a low snow yr in the MW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XfireLOW Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 18 hours ago, beavis1729 said: I am suspect of the accuracy of this map over NW Wisconsin. I wonder if the Duluth NWS office has map for covering the area around Superior (the city) to Ashland? This map looks like it has a lack of data points in the area where Lake Superior can cause highly variable snowfall in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, beavis1729 said: But that is a very low bar. I am talking about 60+ days of consistent snowcover through the heart of winter, i.e. Dec. 15th to Feb. 15th. In WI north of 45N, they do it pretty much every year. But I think Chicago has only done this once (winter of 1978-79). Well it's a lot when you have low expectations like me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, UMB WX said: Couldn't pay me to trailer 7+ hrs to trail ride in the UP on a weekend in a low snow yr in the MW. I can get to the lake belt of the lower peninsula in 3 hours. 5 hours will get me to the UP snow belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 5 hrs gets me to Land O' Lakes . I'm a trail rider so the UP does nothing for me. No sense leaving 25k miles of trails behind. Now if i want off trail riding and to geek out on snow mounds the UP would be for me. For trail riding I can't beat WI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Hit 34 today, making it the first time above freezing since November 5th...snow has been on the ground now 17 days consecutive. Brief mini warmup to normal this week, but plenty of chances for snow. MQT running -7.7 temps and + 5.1" snow for the month. Settling into winter in the N woods. Backyard today: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 5 hours ago, UMB WX said: 5 hrs gets me to Land O' Lakes . I'm a trail rider so the UP does nothing for me. No sense leaving 25k miles of trails behind. Now if i want off trail riding and to geek out on snow mounds the UP would be for me. For trail riding I can't beat WI. True, but you need snow to do it. You just have to get lucky with synoptic snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 The widespread dense fog this morning coated everything in a heavy frost, including paved areas. Made for some slick spots driving to work. Temp bottomed out at 25. It really made the landscape look frozen with frost covering everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoos0728 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Will be traveling over a few rivers and thru some woods from Atlanta area to SE Wisconsin next Tuesday. Anything looking interesting for that time period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 5 hours ago, Jonger said: True, but you need snow to do it. You just have to get lucky with synoptic snow. Thankfully WI. lucked its way to 25k miles of trails to choose from so even on lean yrs there's man snow to be found in some corner of the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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