ORH_wxman Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Just now, weathafella said: WPO ftw Yeah it does help somewhat in keeping the airmass from turning into pure PAC puke...it still crosses the GOA, but at least it isn't a firehose originating from Tokyo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: Good thing there's a -NAO since it's not the prettiest look with the GOAK trough. Hope it stays. Yea but it’s not the ugliest look if the massive vortex covered both epo and wpo regions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, weathafella said: WPO ftw I'm thanking the -NAO. No need for 1040 highs in eastern Canada to supply 38F air. Look at the vortex in Quebec. Ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Yea but it’s not the ugliest look if the massive vortex covered both epo and wpo regions. NAO is def helping there for sure...ideally we'd like that WPO ridge just a smidge east...or not have the vortex fold under it so much....but its still def better than the vortex being over most of AK into the Bering Strait...that is the absolute worst and the difference matters. The NAO actually helps keeps our source from Yukon and not California/Oregon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Yea but it’s not the ugliest look if the massive vortex covered both epo and wpo regions. I'll take my chances on a Greenland Davis strait ridge with a Western US intermountain ridge in place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: I'll take my chances on a Greenland Davis strait ridge with a Western US intermountain ridge in place It's striking how anti Nina it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 La Nino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I'm thanking the -NAO. No need for 1040 highs in eastern Canada to supply 38F air. Look at the vortex in Quebec. Ftw. That NAO is strengthening run to run it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Just now, CoastalWx said: It's striking how anti Nina it is. Strongly east based Nina evolving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Just now, weathafella said: That NAO is strengthening run to run it seems. Bottom up effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 42 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: How are the WINDEX parameters looking? Don’t think it’s windex type but maybe some flurries or snow showers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: Strongly east based Nina evolving? Maybe. Still may be leftover mjo hangover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Just now, CoastalWx said: Bottom up effect. Must be Cohen's snow cover...it just has a 4 year lag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 But it all shows you how close the margins are sometimes and why sometimes temperature progs swing so widely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Just now, ORH_wxman said: Must be Cohen's snow cover...it just has a 4 year lag. this seems like some sort of wave breaking I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: Maybe. Still may be left mjo hangover? whatever it is is a nice change from the torch talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Wouldn’t the Pacific being the better look be better for us? I’m not counting on an NAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: Wouldn’t the Pacific being the better look be better for us? I’m not counting on an NAO The NAO event is starting to get near D10 now...so it is probably real. I still want to see it get inside 10 days and be very robust, but this one is strengthening as we get closer which is a good sign. The PAC isn't horrible anyway...I think that vortex folding under temporarily maks it slightly more hostile, but the huge Aleutian ridging doesn't seem to want to go anywhere....so good chance we reload the EPO/WPO down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Yeah I didn't mean the Pacific was puke, just wasn't the prettiest look for someone like myself this early in the season. But as Will said, that -NAO is real. Magnitude to be determined I suppose. But this is the first time I felt that this was not voodoo in at least a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I’m more than fine with a balancing act. The EPO doesn’t have to be on roids if the NAO cooperates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Dead zone. We reorient to winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 not personally concerned ...or even suspecting really, much loss in the negative phase state of the EPO. I almost think the worst that will evolve is neutrality before perhaps a concerted reload - "concerted" because the -WPO is heavily positively correlated with the -EPO phase state, and the entire Asia relay into the WPO (which is also a bit hinted in the fact that the MJO wave strengths are biased in the 7-8-1-2) favors the -WPO. The logical conclusion is supportive of the -EPO, which is probably why we wended our way into one (as well as scooped out a couple of west. Pac typhoons while we were at it) it in the first place. What I find intriguing is the appearance of multi-guidance support for westerly biased -NAO blocking. ... It's getting precarious for front loading - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: La Nino. Which is Spanish for "the nino." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Hoth said: Which is Spanish for "the nino." I think it's a feminine boy though. Think man snow with pink flakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, dendrite said: I think it's a feminine boy though. Think man snow with pink flakes. Scooter shoveling in pink speedos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Scooter shoveling in pink speedos? Angrily tossing the shovel while the old lady neighbor catcalls and whistles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 7 hours ago, ORH_wxman said: The NAO event is starting to get near D10 now...so it is probably real. I still want to see it get inside 10 days and be very robust, but this one is strengthening as we get closer which is a good sign. The PAC isn't horrible anyway...I think that vortex folding under temporarily maks it slightly more hostile, but the huge Aleutian ridging doesn't seem to want to go anywhere....so good chance we reload the EPO/WPO down the road. Not done crafting the outlook, but I have been on the early and late blocking train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 EPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Probably a bit too warm, but SW NH highlands were close to a paste job on the euro for MOnday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LurkerBoy Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 56 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: EPS DIVULGE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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