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NNE Winter Part 3

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Looks like about 0.3-0.5" here as well from the overnight. The signal has been there in the models to try to get something going around the 15th time frame but we shall see.

I'm watching that time period too. But so far out. Just have to wait and see I guess. Would be nice to get a grand finale for this winter.

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And you're probably right about last season, I just feel that the winters lately have been ending too early for my liking. But I don't recall a big storm last march.

 

 

Yeah there was one period at the end of the month that was pretty good.

 

And then there was some upslope after the synoptic storm through the 26th.  I remember it as a solid powder week.

 

Indeed, Stowe called it exactly that:

 

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As I was looking through that storm report, I noted the following comment I made:

 

Excellent – nice to see March making up for lost time earlier in the season – almost up to 90% of average snowfall here with the help of this latest storm.

 

We’re currently at 76% of average snowfall, and a bit behind where we were at this point last season (112.3” vs. 103.4”), so indeed it would take something in the two-foot range to really do some catching up, so we’ll just have to see what the rest of the month brings.

 

Actually, I was going to respond about that March thoughts, but PF took care of it.  Really, two out of the past three Marches have been fine as we talked about in our discussion here in the thread on Feb 23rd:

 

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Actually, for details on any month in the past few seasons, there are a couple of options from our website.   I create a winter weather summary, with a short piece of text on each month.  Here’s the March text from the 2012-2013 Waterbury Winter Weather Summary:

 

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Snowfall:  30.8” – Although certainly not approaching what we saw in the second half of December, the last part of the winter/snowfall season was the other relatively bright spot to mention.  This was aided by our largest storm of the season, which delivered 21.3” during the last third of the month.  That storm was the only real standout for the month however.  It did bring March above average in terms of snowfall, but only by roughly six inches, and the resulting monthly total really ranks in the middle of the pack for Marches in my records.  The fact that the snowpack in the area around our snow measurement stake at the house was barely hanging on around mid month was certainly disconcerting, but the snowpack did recover somewhat with the help of a modest mid-month storm, that big storm at the end of the month, and reasonably cool temperatures.

 

I also cover each month in a ski-focused summary as well.  Here’s the March text from the 2012-2013 Ski Season Summary:

 

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March:   The first half of March wasn’t especially snowy, with just one notable storm in the ½ to 1-foot range for the mountains; the big storm that affected southern parts of New England with up to 30 inches of snow in the March 5th-8th period was literally a non-event in Northern New England.  Of course even with some warmer temperatures in the second week, decent powder remained in the higher elevations, and soft snow made for fun turns on piste.  Around mid month though, the skiing started to get even better as the snowfall picked back up with back to back modest storms and 72-hour snow totals topping out around 16 inches on the 16th.  Thanks to the ability of the Central and Northern Greens to reel in snow, conditions moved well beyond the dust on crust that many areas to the south were likely encountering. That was the start of an excellent stretch of winter that was second only to the snowy December period, with our largest valley storm of the season arriving on March 19th and delivering 7-day snow totals of 2 to 4 feet in the mountains.  At Stowe they were calling it “Powder Week” and the deep turns just kept on coming.  The increase in mountain snowpack during the period was notable in that it finally moved solidly above average and stayed there Simply put, even lift-served powder skiing was endemic on piste during that second half of March until a brief warm-up during the last couple of days of the month.

 

You can find all the summaries if you click on “Summary” in the categories list on our website:

 

http://jandeproductions.com/category/summary/

 

And J.Spin...dude your website has the the most comprehensive snow and skiing data out there.  Its awesome to just recall and event, go to your site, and find the event with associated radar pictures, observations, comments, and ski area snowfall data.  Thanks for putting all that stuff together, its a great historical record.

 

Excellent!  I love seeing all the off-season work being put to good use; these are just the kinds of conversations for which I envision them being useful.

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000NOUS41 KCAR 051234PNSCARMEZ001>006-010-011-015>017-029-030>032-060033-PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENTNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CARIBOU ME733 AM EST WED MAR 5 2014...LATEST LOW TEMPERATURE REPORTS...LOCATION                       TEMP      TIME/DATE       LAT/LONVAN BUREN                      -29       0730 AM 03/05   47.17N/67.94WLILLE                          -29       0700 AM 03/05   47.28N/68.11WBIG BLACK RIVER                -29       0600 AM 03/05   46.89N/69.75WDICKEY                         -28       0700 AM 03/05   47.11N/69.09W1 SW FORT KENT                 -27       0603 AM 03/05   47.24N/68.61W1 SSE FORT KENT                -26       0602 AM 03/05   47.25N/68.58WMADAWASKA                      -25       0554 AM 03/05   47.35N/68.33WNINE-MILE BRIDGE               -25       0600 AM 03/05   46.70N/69.72W5 SE GRAND ISLE                -25       0601 AM 03/05   47.24N/68.10WFOX BROOK                      -24       0600 AM 03/05   46.81N/68.84WEAGLE LAKE                     -23       0630 AM 03/05   47.04N/68.57W2 W SAINT AGATHA               -23       0630 AM 03/05   47.25N/68.35W4 ENE BAKER LAKE               -21       0615 AM 03/05   46.30N/69.85W4 E NEW SWEDEN                 -20       0634 AM 03/05   46.96N/68.03W

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u guys are great, with all you recorded data making up for my sketchy memory.  I do think that you guys up north must have done much better in that late march storm than I did down in the MRV.

fwiw-I find these historical discussions very entertaining whilst we are in a lull without much to track in terms of future snowfall.

 

any chance we get that N.VT americanwx gtg going before I turn back into a NY pumpkin???

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NOUS41 KCAR 051234

PNSCAR

MEZ001>006-010-011-015>017-029-030>032-060033-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CARIBOU ME

733 AM EST WED MAR 5 2014

...LATEST LOW TEMPERATURE REPORTS...

LOCATION TEMP TIME/DATE LAT/LON

VAN BUREN -29 0730 AM 03/05 47.17N/67.94W

LILLE -29 0700 AM 03/05 47.28N/68.11W

BIG BLACK RIVER -29 0600 AM 03/05 46.89N/69.75W

DICKEY -28 0700 AM 03/05 47.11N/69.09W

1 SW FORT KENT -27 0603 AM 03/05 47.24N/68.61W

1 SSE FORT KENT -26 0602 AM 03/05 47.25N/68.58W

MADAWASKA -25 0554 AM 03/05 47.35N/68.33W

NINE-MILE BRIDGE -25 0600 AM 03/05 46.70N/69.72W

5 SE GRAND ISLE -25 0601 AM 03/05 47.24N/68.10W

FOX BROOK -24 0600 AM 03/05 46.81N/68.84W

EAGLE LAKE -23 0630 AM 03/05 47.04N/68.57W

2 W SAINT AGATHA -23 0630 AM 03/05 47.25N/68.35W

4 ENE BAKER LAKE -21 0615 AM 03/05 46.30N/69.85W

4 E NEW SWEDEN -20 0634 AM 03/05 46.96N/68.03W

Meanwhile I had about 25F milder than yesterday morning's -18, because of the overnight snow dump. (All of 0.2", but the 0.01" LE ended my string at 11 days with no measurable precip!) My season's total of 68.7" is 0.4" below my avg thru March 5, and if it's a week before anything significant arrives I'll be 4-5" under. Easily made up - I hope.

Thanks for the table. However, 2009-10 remains the poster child for upside down snow totals. IMO, we could wait 100+ years and never again see BWI's winter snow total exceeding that for CAR.

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Meanwhile I had about 25F milder than yesterday morning's -18, because of the overnight snow dump. (All of 0.2", but the 0.01" LE ended my string at 11 days with no measurable precip!) My season's total of 68.7" is 0.4" below my avg thru March 5, and if it's a week before anything significant arrives I'll be 4-5" under. Easily made up - I hope.

Thanks for the table. However, 2009-10 remains the poster child for upside down snow totals. IMO, we could wait 100+ years and never again see BWI's winter snow total exceeding that for CAR.

 

2009-10 was horrible for snow up here, I had 55" for a seasonal total, Pretty good signal for something significant around the 13th right now, Of course we will have to see how it plays out

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I'm off today so have been running errands in town, but Mansfield has been socked in while the sun is out in town. I can't imagine it's adding up to anything more than a D-1", because radar is showing nothing happening...but still always fun to see the snow cloud parked over the mountain obscuring it. It's amazingly persistent, not like a snow shower that moves across the landscape, just a white veil that sits in one place.

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Clearing out. Time to radiate.

MAV has -5F at CON tonight and -6F for Fri AM. LCI is -5F and -2F. Meanwhile, BML, HIE, and SLK take it home tonight with -29F.

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Clearing out. Time to radiate.

MAV has -5F at CON tonight and -6F for Fri AM. LCI is -5F and -2F. Meanwhile, BML, HIE, and SLK take it home tonight with -29F.

-23F at MVL...then a high of 25F tomorrow haha.

I just looked at NAM MOS and they aren't even comparable...-8F at MVL. NAM also HIE and BML at -16.

NAM MOS has BTV at +1 tonight while MAV is -17F.

Huge differences in the short term forecast.

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Event totals: 0.7” Snow/0.03” L.E.

 

Yesterday morning there was an additional tenth of snow after my observations, and that marked the end of that system’s snow.

 

Details from the 6:00 A.M. Waterbury observations:

 

New Snow: 0.1 inches

New Liquid: Trace

Temperature: -12.3 F

Sky: Clear

Snow at the stake: 12.0 inches

 

The next opportunities for snow appear to be Friday night into Saturday with a weak frontal boundary, Sunday night into Monday with weak low pressure skirting through the area, and a subsequent system Monday night into Tuesday.  There are also hints of an even larger system toward the end of next week, but that’s pretty far out there and not making into the BTV NWS forecast discussion yet.

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Right around -20 this morning. Getting toward the end of midwinter cold, one would think. My latest -20 or lower was 3/9/07, latest -10 or lower just two days later, in 2005 (and same date in '03.) Most subzero mornings in March was 7 in 2003 (plus one day right at zero), and that mark might be in play, as tomorrow will almost certainly bring this month to 5 subzero minima and models show some cool wx down the road a piece.

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This one is taken from an overlook in Groton, VT looking east towards the Whites. I believe we are looking over Allenson's hood at Mt. Moosilauke.

 

 

I'd say that's looking more NE--the small bump on the far left looks like Blue Mt., just above Groton village and the bigger stuff behind would be the Franconia Ridge. I believe the hill just above the swinging bench is near an area we backcountry ski at quite a bit--Galusha Hill on the Tophsam/Groton line.

 

Looks like a nice day, for sure.

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I'd say that's looking more NE--the small bump on the far left looks like Blue Mt., just above Groton village and the bigger stuff behind would be the Franconia Ridge. I believe the hill just above the swinging bench is near an area we backcountry ski at quite a bit--Galusha Hill on the Tophsam/Groton line.

 

Looks like a nice day, for sure.

I think your right about the location. I know that I was on my way to Groton and was on the west side of 302.

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I think your right about the location. I know that I was on my way to Groton and was on the west side of 302.

 

Yeah, I was wondering where you were for that shot. Near the big VAST lot on 302?

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Would have been a great night for winter camping in a tent down by the river...........lol

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Dewpoints are super low, -16F. This pattern blows for snow. Nothing on the map for at least the next week. Might as well let spring come early then. Might not surpass last year's total after all. Need 13".

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