Chicago Storm Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 No man, they only post text lists when Chicago is included in the storm.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Storms like this make the non belt GL/OV v. SNE who gets better winters storms debate seem ridiculous Fixed it for ya Seriously though,...interior New England has better winters than most non-belt Great Lakes....coastal New England (Boston) its not even debatable imo. Our winters are better in every aspect (frequency of snowfall, snowcover, cold) except their ability to have massive storms. And they have had next to no winter (other than a day of snow here and there that melts instantly) in 2 years. 9" last winter total, 9" this winter. Very feast or famine. Of course....this is for people like me who like WINTER. if you just like massive STORMS, your odds are better in Boston. Speaking of...I have a feeling YYZ will outsnow BOS on this storm With YYZ ptype is not an issue, in BOS it is. All comes down to qpf. Good luck. We look to probably get a quick thump of snow, nice snowpack refresher, but miss the heavy snow to the north. I just hope it stays all frozen, as models have the MI border as the frozen/liquid line right now. This is a good euro link for thiose of us who dont get text output http://www.yr.no/place/United_States/Michigan/Detroit_Metropolitan_Wayne_County_Airport/long.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I would agree with bigger storms. Otherwise, you compare Boston to Milwaukee, which is a really good comparison as they're at a similar latitude and both have a body of water to their east, and Milwaukee gets overall more wintry conditions on a regular basis, but receives more nickel and dime storms in comparison I'm pretty sure. For sure. MKE averages 5" more snow than BOS per year, but 36 more days of snowcover, and average temp is some 7-8F colder. Definitely more wintry overall, less chance of the occasional crippling storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 36" would last 36 days anyhow.... Going to be an interesting period. I also don't think the overperforming systems are over a thing of the past. Perhaps its time to fire up the machines and get ready to make some mountains. Do you do parking lots or main roads? Basically the week has been where parking lots need plowing, main roads salting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 lol Just saw that nugget of wisdom from Ajdass. I guess the December 27th was consistently modeled as a hit for Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Fixed it for ya Seriously though,...interior New England has better winters than most non-belt Great Lakes....coastal New England (Boston) its not even debatable imo. Our winters are better in every aspect (frequency of snowfall, snowcover, cold) except their ability to have massive storms. And they have had next to no winter (other than a day of snow here and there that melts instantly) in 2 years. 9" last winter total, 9" this winter. Very feast or famine. Of course....this is for people like me who like WINTER. if you just like massive STORMS, your odds are better in Boston. Speaking of...I have a feeling YYZ will outsnow BOS on this storm With YYZ ptype is not an issue, in BOS it is. All comes down to qpf. Good luck. We look to probably get a quick thump of snow, nice snowpack refresher, but miss the heavy snow to the north. I just hope it stays all frozen, as models have the MI border as the frozen/liquid line right now. This is a good euro link for thiose of us who dont get text output http://www.yr.no/place/United_States/Michigan/Detroit_Metropolitan_Wayne_County_Airport/long.html No offense but I don't see YYZ outdoing BOS on this storm. Not saying YYZ is not in line for a good hit because they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 No offense but I don't see YYZ outdoing BOS on this storm. Agreed with this, if the Euro verifies, Boston actually gets basically all snow with 3.49" of QPF. The 12z GFS is less insane, but they still well outdo YYZ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Boston kicks ass at snowstorms. DTW and YYZ folks has no idea what it's like to get what they get. We have NO idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Boston kicks ass at snowstorms. DTW and YYZ folks has no idea what it's like to get what they get. We have NO idea. Exactly. And "WINTER" has a different meaning to EVERYONE. It's definition is SUBJECTIVE. So Boston does in Fact get better winters than all of us according to SOME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Fixed it for ya Seriously though,...interior New England has better winters than most non-belt Great Lakes....coastal New England (Boston) its not even debatable imo. Our winters are better in every aspect (frequency of snowfall, snowcover, cold) except their ability to have massive storms. And they have had next to no winter (other than a day of snow here and there that melts instantly) in 2 years. 9" last winter total, 9" this winter. Very feast or famine. Of course....this is for people like me who like WINTER. if you just like massive STORMS, your odds are better in Boston. Speaking of...I have a feeling YYZ will outsnow BOS on this storm With YYZ ptype is not an issue, in BOS it is. All comes down to qpf. Good luck. We look to probably get a quick thump of snow, nice snowpack refresher, but miss the heavy snow to the north. I just hope it stays all frozen, as models have the MI border as the frozen/liquid line right now. This is a good euro link for thiose of us who dont get text output http://www.yr.no/place/United_States/Michigan/Detroit_Metropolitan_Wayne_County_Airport/long.html I wonder if there's a way to aggregate and then average all the climo data in a particular geographical region to get a "wintry quotient" or something. Problem with comparing big cities is that while they're generally the population center of a region they're not always the climatological center. I don't think of Boston as an exemplar of SNE's climate anymore than I think of Chicago as an exemplar of the Great Lake's climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 No offense but I don't see YYZ outdoing BOS on this storm. Not saying YYZ is not in line for a good hit because they are. I appreciate Josh trying to rub some of his good vibes off on us but I gotta concur with Stebo. My seasonal total *might* beat what BOS sees in that one storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Exactly. And "WINTER" has a different meaning to EVERYONE. It's definition is SUBJECTIVE. So Boston does in Fact get better winters than all of us according to SOME. Yep its all subjective depends on what you like. I personally like winter. I don't like above average temps. I'm very happy to get numerous 2-4" events and have a deep snow pack. That is what I like similar to freak. although at the same time I do know this that DTW gets a major beat-down up against Boston when you compare major events. Don't think there 2 12"+ events since 1982 can hold much ground... against Boston. Winter overall: edge goes to Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I appreciate Josh trying to rub some of his good vibes off on us but I gotta concur with Stebo. My seasonal total *might* beat what BOS sees in that one storm. Well I mean you are getting a good hitter, but to compare to the prospect of a huge storm for BOS is a bit silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 We should have a YYZ contest on what they will get with this storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Fixed it for ya Seriously though,...interior New England has better winters than most non-belt Great Lakes....coastal New England (Boston) its not even debatable imo. Our winters are better in every aspect (frequency of snowfall, snowcover, cold) except their ability to have massive storms. And they have had next to no winter (other than a day of snow here and there that melts instantly) in 2 years. 9" last winter total, 9" this winter. Very feast or famine. Of course....this is for people like me who like WINTER. if you just like massive STORMS, your odds are better in Boston. Speaking of...I have a feeling YYZ will outsnow BOS on this storm With YYZ ptype is not an issue, in BOS it is. All comes down to qpf. Good luck. We look to probably get a quick thump of snow, nice snowpack refresher, but miss the heavy snow to the north. I just hope it stays all frozen, as models have the MI border as the frozen/liquid line right now. This is a good euro link for thiose of us who dont get text output http://www.yr.no/place/United_States/Michigan/Detroit_Metropolitan_Wayne_County_Airport/long.html BOS will out snow DTW,GRR,and YYZ comibined from this event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 We should have a YYZ contest on what they will get with this storm. I am in the 13-20cm range but LES/higher ratios may bump up totals with an ENE wind. A slight southward trend with the system would bump up ratios and promote more LES off of lake ontario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I am in the 13-20cm range but LES/higher ratios may bump up totals with an ENE wind. A slight southward trend with the system would bump up ratios and promote more LES off of lake ontario. I'll translate: 5-8". I'll come out with a prelim call after I see the 0z NAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Well I mean you are getting a good hitter, but to compare to the prospect of a huge storm for BOS is a bit silly. Oh sure. Could be the biggest storm of the season. Maybe the biggest in years. But measuring in feet we will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Through 27 looks like the NAM has shifted its QPF placement northward. Note a massive shift but noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 We should have a YYZ contest on what they will get with this storm. If Pearson is going to be used, I'll say 1.9". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 If Pearson is going to be used, I'll say 1.9". That is a great point. Can't use Pearson have to trust SSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Gonna have to ride the NOGAPS on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Like that little speck of green on the west end of Lk Ontario at 33. It's more than marginal LES potential when the models pick up on it even on the low resolution NA maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Gonna have to ride the NOGAPS on this one LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioWX Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Oh sure. Could be the biggest storm of the season. Maybe the biggest in years. But measuring in feet we will not. To be fair, making it Toronto's biggest storm in years wouldn't be hard. What was Toronto's biggest storm in 2010-11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Nam starting to look really interesting.. at hour 42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 To be fair, making it Toronto's biggest storm in years wouldn't be hard. What was Toronto's biggest storm in 2010-11? 6" and change at Pearson. A little under 8" downtown. Just off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 NAM has really slowed things down compared to it's previous couple of runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 5-8" sounds about right for GTA, YYZ will probably say something like 2.1" but realistically there will be better measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Check out the differences at H5 at 45 compared to the 18z run at 51. That's going to have implications as this run unfolds I gotta think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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