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Euro brings another round of snow into eastern SNE at 186-192...probably a few more inches.

At any rate, we really have no idea how this retrograde pattern is going to set up once the block gets established after our lakes cutter...the lakes cutter itself still has a ton of uncertainty, but most of the solutions I think are 90% rain regardless....unless we somehow can pull off a Ukie solution.

I'm noticing a trend and it could finally be e ne's time next week.

With this season being la Nina as opposed to el Nino, hopefully the seasonal mega block attributed black hole will reside over the Caribou area this year instead of over us.... with everything displaced N.

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I'm noticing a trend and it could finally be e ne's time next week.

With this season being la Nina as opposed to el Nino, hopefully the seasonal black hole will sit over the Caribou this year instead of over us, with everything displaced N.

We need to catch a break here.............

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I'm noticing a trend and it could finally be e ne's time next week.

With this season being la Nina as opposed to el Nino, hopefully the seasonal mega block attributed black hole will reside over the Caribou area this year instead of over us.... with everything displaced N.

LOL..what trend is that? One wrong whacked out solution of the Euro?

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The NNE ski resorts might have their pack decimated come Monday but a few days later would probably make it back up again with more upslope reminiscent of what has been going on in Vermont.

Not if this takes the Euro track, the only precip that would fall would be along the front itself and the warm temps wouldnt last long enough...the worst case scenario for them would be the low tracking up the Hudson Valley with a significant amount of rain.

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i like the way the 12z ukie bleeds some HP in from ontario and noses it toward Quebec as the storm is just off delmarva hour 120

is that even possible to get a storm go over C.C or east with the other HP (off marimes ) that the aforementioned one almost connects with in a postion E of us....albeit weak and moving north.

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Not if this takes the Euro track, the only precip that would fall would be along the front itself and the warm temps wouldnt last long enough...the worst case scenario for them would be the low tracking up the Hudson Valley with a significant amount of rain.

I wasn't taking the Euro in consideration until something - even itself - agrees with it.

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So when do you guys think we'll have a snow storm that reaches the Nam guidance?

I'm hoping we can make it through the entire winter without a decent accumulating snowfall that doesn't change to rain.

That way, most of the undesirables will off themselves and the board will be a bastion of sound minds next year.

This is my Christmas wish.

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Not if this takes the Euro track, the only precip that would fall would be along the front itself and the warm temps wouldnt last long enough...the worst case scenario for them would be the low tracking up the Hudson Valley with a significant amount of rain.

Verbatim on the Euro its pretty bad up there. It has temps >45 for 12+ hours.

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HPC

148 pm

one thing is for sure this sure is anomalous

THIS SFC LOW IS FCST TO BE URGED ALONG BY A DEEP

BUT OPEN TROF ALOFT... WITH SOME MID LVL HGT ANOMALIES EXPECTED TO

REACH AT LEAST 5 STANDARD DEVIATIONS BELOW NORMAL IN THE SRN PART

OF THE TROF LATE SUN THRU MON. BY THE LATTER HALF OF THE PERIOD

MOST SOLNS EXPECT AN UPR LOW TO CLOSE OFF OVER/NEAR THE NORTHEAST.

THIS EVOLUTION WOULD MAINTAIN OR RE-DEVELOP SFC LOW PRESSURE OFF

THE NEW ENGLAND COAST.

AS THE SHORTWAVE DIGS SEWD TOWARDS THE GULF COAST ENHANCED BY

BUILDING UPSTREAM RIDGING AN ARCTIC AIR CRASH PROCEEDS SOUTHWARD

THRU THE PLAINS SAT AND DEEP INTO THE GLFMEX SUN SWEEPING SOUTH

AND EAST TO OFF THE EAST COAST AND LATE SUN AND MON. DEEPENING SFC

LOW MOVING NEWD FROM THE MS VALLEY SAT WILL BE OFF THE NORTHEAST

COAST MONDAY. LARGE AREA OF WINDY AND BITTERLY COLD AIR WILL COVER

THE ERN HALF OF CONUS. THIS WILL THREATEN FLORIDA WITH ANOTHER

FREEZE COLDER AND WINDIER THAN THE RECENT AND CURRENT EVENT WITH

RECORD LOWS POSSIBLE. MOS GUIDANCE TEMPERATURES FROM THE MID ATLC

REGION INTO THE SOUTHEAST FOR MON-WED WHILE AVERAGING 15 DEGREES

BELOW THE NORM ARE WAY TOO WARM AND EXPECT WIDESPREAD AREAS TO

STAY AOB FREEZING THRU MUCH THE PERIOD. HIGH WINDS WILL BRING COLD

PENETRATION INTO MORE VULNERABLE STRUCTURES ALONG THE SOUTHEAST

COAST BRINGING A THREAT OF COLD DAMAGE. IMPROVING CONDITIONS OVER

THE GULF COAST AND FL AS HTS RISE MID WEEK.

RETROGRESSION OF AN EXCEPTIONALLY STRONG MID LEVEL BLOCK TO

GREENLAND RESULTING IN A CLOSED TO CUTOFF LOW ALONG THE NEW ENG

COAST SETTING THE STAGE FOR DAYS OF OFFSHORE GALE FORCE WINDS

INITIALLY ALONG THE ENTIRE EAST COAST MONDAY THEN REMAINING OVER

THE MID ATLC REGION AND NORTHEAST THRU THURSDAY. PROLONGED STRONG

OFF SHORE WINDS WILL LOWER TIDAL LEVELS ALONG THE

COAST..BAYS/SOUNDS AND RIVERS POSSIBLY TO LEVELS UNSEEN SINCE

APRIL 1975. THIS COULD BE A THREAT FOR DEEP AND EVEN SHALLOW DRAFT

VESSELS IN HARBORS.

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That looks like crap for us...at least for the main storm. A track over interior NNJ isn't going to cut it in this setup.

It does look like it could try and retrograde something after the 144 panel. That's probably the best bet right now for us aside from a brief period of front end snow/ice.

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