Tropopause_Fold Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I want this to go negative like hell...it wants to develop another wave near the BM! yeah that's why this idea isn't so craptastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpickett79 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 The surface low might be close...but the evolution is pretty far different IMO...no other guidance closes off at 500mb over the midwest. The Euro gained more separation from the PV...but it decided to go negative and stack the southern shortwave anyway. Perhaps in light of other guidance the euro is seperating itself from the Polar vortex more.....and just exaggerating the southern short wave closing it off and we got a burb. I'll be looking to see if other guidance trends toward closing the S. shortwave off earlier. i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 65-70 with dews in the low 60's and damaging winds in mid December with a west based -NAO? you mean east based Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 yeah that's why this idea isn't so craptastic. So basically if we can get this to generate another SLP off the coast we could see more wrap-around precip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 65-70 with dews in the low 60's and damaging winds in mid December with a west based -NAO? Its not a west based -NAO...we have a UK block way out east as this storm first starts amplifying. We've alreayd lost our big NAO block as we speak...its all east right now. We missed our golden chance with a west based block this past 4 or 5 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I want this to go negative like hell...it wants to develop another wave near the BM! Its trying and looks like it retrogrades it back here......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 So basically if we can get this to generate another SLP off the coast we could see more wrap-around precip? Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCPSUSuperstorm2010 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I want this to go negative like hell...it wants to develop another wave near the BM! Yes, that is what I was talking about earlier that if the EURO brought the primary that far west, it would be the frontal wave that develops around hours 144-168 would be further west and not so far offshore. I would like to see consistency in this storm though before I get too excited. I would take potential for severe storms, over plain rain and 40f. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 65-70 with dews in the low 60's and damaging winds in mid December with a west based -NAO? You forgot to mention conveniently sandwiched between below average cold stretches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Snow backing into eastern SNE at 156 hours...the big negative tilt is causing the anafrontal low to retrograde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Caribou FTL again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 So basically if we can get this to generate another SLP off the coast we could see more wrap-around precip? well verbatim it starts pushing precip back into SNE...it runs the ULL out underneath of us. trouble is...this run is on steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Yep. Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 well verbatim it starts pushing precip back into SNE...it runs the ULL out underneath of us. trouble is...this run is on steroids. How many more lows are going to back in on New England? We've had more lows back in on us, then the usual track west of us or underneath us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Snow backing into eastern SNE at 156 hours...the big negative tilt is causing the anafrontal low to retrograde. That would be nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 well verbatim it starts pushing precip back into SNE...it runs the ULL out underneath of us. trouble is...this run is on steroids. Chances are we see a toned down version of the Euro which still means rain and no retrograding snow on the back end lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Now we should def toss it..might be one of the most whacked Euro runs we've seen in several yrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Going to be a lot of people jumping in the St John's river in Caribou........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCPSUSuperstorm2010 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 yeah that's why this idea isn't so craptastic. Yes Phil, the EURO has had this solution since yesterday's runs. Snow backing into eastern SNE at 156 hours...the big negative tilt is causing the anafrontal low to retrograde. That is awesome, or is it for Cape Cod, MA Will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 That secondary vort below the main PV in Canada clearly visible from 72 hours over northern ALB/SASK and then 96 over International Falls is suspicious if you ask me...that may be what is causing the early major phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Now we should def toss it..might be one of the most whacked Euro runs we've seen in several yrs lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Caribou Lowe's running low on rope stock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Snow backing into eastern SNE at 156 hours...the big negative tilt is causing the anafrontal low to retrograde. The retrograde anthem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulMYTsftjQE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 How many more lows are going to back in on New England? We've had more lows back in on us, then the usual track west of us or underneath us. it's ridiculous. i feel like i'm watching the same output over and over again. the advantage to this one, is at least the ULL is south of our latitude. ec actually has +4C air way up in N canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Chances are we see a toned down version of the Euro which still means rain and no retrograding snow on the back end lol I agree....totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCPSUSuperstorm2010 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 We don't want to see the EURO only showing us this solution. Problem is it won't be that negative and the h5 low won't be this far south where the low retrogrades into New England. So the middle road would be the GGEM with this period. Rain on Sunday/Monday and offshore storm on Tuesday/Wednesday with cold and dry weather in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 That secondary vort below the main PV in Canada clearly visible from 72 hours over northern ALB/SASK and then 96 over International Falls is suspicious if you ask me...that may be what is causing the early major phase. Violently agree. This is garbage today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpickett79 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 That secondary vort below the main PV in Canada clearly visible from 72 hours over northern ALB/SASK and then 96 over International Falls is suspicious if you ask me...that may be what is causing the early major phase. gonna be fun to hear from ensembles and tonite's run as well. its not over....i think the euro latches on at D (3.5) lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Violently agree. This is garbage today So should we follow the GFS oh holy one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 those heights over the n atlantic/greenland are unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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