whiteoutwx1796 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Eyewall does look much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 This is making landfall in the same general area as Bertha and looks like it may take a similar track north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdwx Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Incorrect... the core has become somewhat poorly defined outside of a northern eyewall remnant feature that is pushing onshore. Has become? Looked horrible all day yesterday to me anyway.. Looks like center is going in between banks and sounds, double shot.<br><br><br> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 "Landfall" about to occur at Cape Lookout, NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil882 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Has become? Looked horrible all day yesterday to me anyway.. Looks like center is going in between banks and sounds, double shot.<br><br><br> It had an inner eyewall with decent composure yesterday... you can't even call the current structure an eyewall but more of a fragment. "Landfall" about to occur at Cape Lookout, NC. yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Landfall pretty much occuring at this point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Good view here http://www.daculaweather.com/ridge_carolina_master.php and my Morehead City loop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Bands already on my Dover AFB loop below Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthNJwx Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Wilmington, NC (KILM) reporting winds of NW 40 G 62 at the 7am hour. KILM is more than 80 miles WSW of the center, which is roughly making landfall at Cape Lookout right now. That's an impressive ob for a location that far on the west side of the storm. On the east side, Hatteras (KHSE) had SE 55 G 77 at 7am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Rainfall of 10.4" as the highest so far in the first half of the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 TWC reporting unofficial gust of 115. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 TWC reporting unofficial gust of 115. 0750 AM HURRICANE CEDAR ISLAND 35.00N 76.33W 08/27/2011 CARTERET NC DEPT OF HIGHWAYS 115 MPH WIND GUST REPORTED AT THE CEDAR ISLAND FERRY OFFICE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorMu Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Has become? Looked horrible all day yesterday to me anyway.. Looks like center is going in between banks and sounds, double shot.<br><br><br> The entire SW quadrant rain shield shredded about 3 am ET. I thought it was a radar gap. The dry air entrained and trough hit Irene in the gut. Strong TS winds and hurricane gusts with some storm surge and a report of a tornado seems to the predominant reports from the NE quadrant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Impressive 100mph+ gusts N of the center with the squalls. You guys up N of NC shouldn't take Irene too lightly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Are those echoes training into Norfolk off the coast of Norfolk and MD couplets? No TVS poppup on radar up but it got warned and the echoes look interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 2065 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0652 AM CDT SAT AUG 27 2011 AREAS AFFECTED...PORTIONS NERN NC...SERN VA...EXTREME SERN MD...SRN DE. CONCERNING...TORNADO WATCH 810... VALID 271152Z - 271345Z THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT FOR TORNADO WATCH 810 CONTINUES. CONTINUE WW FOR MIDDLE-OUTER BAND SUPERCELL POTENTIAL. WW MAY BE CLEARED IN AND S OF INNER-CORE REGION OF TC WHERE UNFAVORABLE CONVECTIVE MODE AND...PER NHC DISCUSSIONS...LACK OF CONVECTION IN BROAD SWATHS OF SYSTEM...SHOULD REMAIN PREVALENT. PRIMARY TORNADO THREAT SHOULD REMAIN CLOSE TO ATLANTIC COAST AND WITHIN RELATIVELY DISCRETE SUPERCELLS MOVING ASHORE. AS OF 1145Z...THREE PRIMARY/BKN BANDS OF TSTMS WERE EVIDENT...EACH POTENTIALLY YIELDING SHORT-LIVED SUPERCELLS AND EXTENDING ESEWD FROM WAL AREA...FROM CAPE CHARLES...AND FROM SRN VA BEACH. TORNADO POTENTIAL SHOULD DIMINISH MORE THAN ABOUT 50-60 NM INLAND AS ACTIVITY MOVES INTO PROGRESSIVELY MORE PRECIP-COOLED AIR MASS...LOSING BOTH INFLOW-LAYER BUOYANCY AND DEFINITION. VWP DATA AND FCST SOUNDINGS SUGGEST 0-1 KM SRH INCREASING ATTM ACROSS SERN VA...AND BECOMING FAVORABLE OVER ADJACENT PORTIONS CAPE CHARLES AREA. SRH IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE THROUGH REMAINDER MORNING OVER MD COAST REGION AS WELL. WITHIN THAT FIELD OF FAVORABLE LOW-LEVEL SHEAR...MAIN FACTOR DRIVING TORNADO RISK WILL BE BUOYANCY. SFC DATA...FCST SOUNDINGS AND OBJECTIVE ANALYSES INDICATE CURVED WEDGE OF FAVORABLY UNSTABLE BOUNDARY-LAYER AIR WRAPS FROM SE-NW AROUND NERN QUADRANT OF TC...BECOMING NARROW IN WIDTH AND MRGL IN MAGNITUDE INLAND FROM SERN VA/NERN NC COAST. 500-800 J/KG MLCAPE MAY BRUSH CORRIDOR FROM HAMPTON ROADS REGION NEWD ACROSS SRN DELMARVA PENINSULA PRIOR TO ARRIVAL OF CORE-REGION PRECIP SHIELD OF IRENE. THIS REGIME IS EXPECTED TO SHIFT NNEWD ACROSS REMAINDER SERN VA...PORTIONS MD AND PERHAPS PORTIONS DE...THROUGH REMAINDER MORNING...AND IN STEP WITH TRANSLATIONAL NNEWD MOTION OF TC CENTER FARTHER S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEREALTOR1 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Bands already on my Dover AFB loop below Alot of the base housing was place under mandatory evacuation yesterday afternoon/evening. I've lived here in Dover (suburbs) for approximately 30, and I can never remember base housing being evacuated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Core is looking better defined since landfall,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeSuck Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Going right over the sounds. Could this hold strength up a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lookout Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Core is looking better defined since landfall,,, I know it's because of frictional convergence but I've jokingly said to others it seems this storm likes land interaction more than it does open water since this is now twice the storm has seemingly gotten a stronger near land. The convection around the eyewall or anywhere near it when it was a bit off shore was pathetic. Then it got close to land and the convection there is now much more intense...which should be transvering the higher winds aloft to the surface better than it was over water. And finally the eye actually has cleared more since landfall with respect to radar returns unlike earlier where it was filled with light rain/returns. Pretty interesting storm in the sense it never got it's act together really despite pretty decent conditions to do so, even though I know it's had some weak to modest ssw shear to deal with. It's amazing to me that some storms can have very intact and intense inner cores/eyewalls with only modest mid and upper level support while some can't ever take advantage of better conditions. Pretty clear the storm has been over hyped with respect to the winds and the primary threat here will be the extremely heavy rainfall after so much rain in the northeast of late. Even though the storm is no where near as strong as forecasted, the ground is so saturated that you don't need a cat 2 or 3 storm to do major damage due to flooding and down trees due to saturated ground as many already know. I don't know if the flood threat has really been hit hard enough though imo. 8 to 12 inches of rain in these areas in the northeast sets the stage for some possibly extreme flooding. That's not to say the media hasn't focused on it though, to their credit they have..but I just think the flooding is or could be the real story with this system over the northeast. Since we have an unusually low wind speed in relation to flight level winds, It would be very interesting to see how high the winds are on top of some of the skyscrapers in places like new york. Does anyone know if there any tall buildings that provide weather data from the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 Lookout- I did see mention in some AFDs that some of the stronger gusts will come onn the backside, as breaks in the clouds may enhance mixing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydbuster Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I know it's because of frictional convergence but I've jokingly said to others it seems this storm likes land interaction more than it does open water since this is now twice the storm has seemingly gotten a stronger near land. The convection around the eyewall or anywhere near it when it was a bit off shore was pathetic. Then it got close to land and the convection there is now much more intense...which should be transvering the higher winds aloft better than it was over water. And finally the eye actually has cleared more since landfall with respect to radar returns unlike earlier where it was filled with light rain/returns. Pretty interesting storm in the sense it never got it's act together really despite pretty decent conditions to do so, even though I know it's had some weak to modest ssw shear to deal with. It's amazing to me that some storms can have very intact and intense inner cores/eyewalls with only modest mid and upper level support while some can't ever take advantage of better conditions. Pretty clear the storm has been over hyped with respect to the winds and the primary threat here will be the extremely heavy rainfall after so much rain in the northeast of late. Even though the storm is no where near as strong as forecasted, the ground is so saturated that you don't need a cat 2 or 3 storm to do major damage due to flooding and down trees due to saturated ground as many already know. I don't know if the flood threat has really been hit hard enough though imo. 8 to 12 inches of rain in these areas in the northeast sets the stage for some possibly extreme flooding. That's not to say the media hasn't focused on it though, to their credit they have..but I just think the flooding is or could be the real story with this system over the northeast. Since we have an unusually low wind speed in relation to flight level winds, It would be very interesting to see how high the winds are on top of some of the skyscrapers in places like new york. Does anyone know if there any tall buildings that provide weather data from the top? It has to be the lack of instability this year along with dry air and some light shear. If this storm had been in 2004, 2005, 2008 or even last year, no doubt Irene would have reached atleast Cat 4 intensity in the Bahamas, and likely maintained major hurricane strength into North Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 The two tallest stations in terms of elevation that send to WU are 410 and 430 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 holding together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I know it's because of frictional convergence but I've jokingly said to others it seems this storm likes land interaction more than it does open water since this is now twice the storm has seemingly gotten a stronger near land. The convection around the eyewall or anywhere near it when it was a bit off shore was pathetic. Then it got close to land and the convection there is now much more intense...which should be transvering the higher winds aloft to the surface better than it was over water. And finally the eye actually has cleared more since landfall with respect to radar returns unlike earlier where it was filled with light rain/returns. Pretty interesting storm in the sense it never got it's act together really despite pretty decent conditions to do so, even though I know it's had some weak to modest ssw shear to deal with. It's amazing to me that some storms can have very intact and intense inner cores/eyewalls with only modest mid and upper level support while some can't ever take advantage of better conditions. Pretty clear the storm has been over hyped with respect to the winds and the primary threat here will be the extremely heavy rainfall after so much rain in the northeast of late. Even though the storm is no where near as strong as forecasted, the ground is so saturated that you don't need a cat 2 or 3 storm to do major damage due to flooding and down trees due to saturated ground as many already know. I don't know if the flood threat has really been hit hard enough though imo. 8 to 12 inches of rain in these areas in the northeast sets the stage for some possibly extreme flooding. That's not to say the media hasn't focused on it though, to their credit they have..but I just think the flooding is or could be the real story with this system over the northeast. Since we have an unusually low wind speed in relation to flight level winds, It would be very interesting to see how high the winds are on top of some of the skyscrapers in places like new york. Does anyone know if there any tall buildings that provide weather data from the top? I could see some damage happening to the taller skyscrapers and a lot of glass falling-I spent an hour yesterday moving computers/equipment away from windows even though I'm on the 3rd floor of my building in Midtown. Also, the funneling effect between buildings could be intense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 totals so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsman Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Power & phones out in Jacksonville, NC; light structural damage (sheds, carports). Cell phones still working. Find that interesting with the dry slot they appeared to be in on radar & satellite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Pretty cool feed going on here..lots of debris flying around (commentary is a bit annoying though ): http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-severe-weather-webcam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I wasn't up early this morning, but from what I can tell from the pictures being posted...core almost looks better defined now, at least on radar. Might just be a product of the storm moving closer to the radar though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeastnc Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Getting hammered in Greenville no idea top wind gust speed but it has to be over 75 MPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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