Ginx snewx Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Steve, it doesn't matter. Pete has not had a cool summer. Nor a hot one, like I said pretty normal all around from June 1, but it ain't over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 a meh winter here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I have always been envious of Will's snowpack pics...it looks as if he had close to 40" on the ground last winter, whereas my maximum snow depth in my yard was 26", with spots in the woods ranging up to 30". But now I can have more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I have always been envious of Will's snowpack pics...it looks as if he had close to 40" on the ground last winter, whereas my maximum snow depth in my yard was 26", with spots in the woods ranging up to 30". But now I can have more Yes, you will be essentially a northern extension of the ORH hills just across the border at 1250-1300 feet. Pretty sick spot. You will now understand why we laughed at Dobbs Ferry all these years. (except the Feb 25, 2010 miracle you guys had, lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I have always been envious of Will's snowpack pics...it looks as if he had close to 40" on the ground last winter, whereas my maximum snow depth in my yard was 26", with spots in the woods ranging up to 30". But now I can have more <img src="http://208.71.34.143/public/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif" /> Counting chickens......can this be the rare year when ORH gets 130 and Rindge,NH is just too far north and settles for 60? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Nor a hot one, like I said pretty normal all around from June 1, but it ain't over. Most of the clime sites have been solidly above normal. Someone should run this year's frequency of AOA 90 va clime at the major clime sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Oh, and for fun, Tubes... Get used to these April 1 and April 23 (might be out of order) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I liked Ginx's Nov 1 snow the best...(I think it was the 1st? 2" before even Pete?) Flame suit on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 The maps tell the story. The epicenter of the >normal anomaly has been southwest of us, but enough bled in from time to time so that we were also a bit above normal for the summer to date. It is what it is ...I feel fortunate to have missed the worst of this summer's heat dome. You keep saying "It's been a cool, rainy summer" and then talking about how much precipitation New England climo sites have received. But having a lot of rain doesn't make it a cool summer, the first part of your statement; you try to make an inextricable link between these two ideas, which doesn't exist in meteorology. We've posted ORH climate data, temperature anomaly maps, as well as July climate summaries....all of them point to a hot month that overrides the fact that temperatures in June were around normal. In fact, we've been in an above normal regime for all of the late spring/summer, and there's no denying it. Here is May 1-July 31st, looks as if you were above normal: Here is July only, you are greater than +2F anomaly, Pete: It doesn't matter whether you work outside, whether I have AC, or whatnot. Meteorological data shows it's been a warm summer relative to climate normals for that area. End of story. Your cool, rainy summer did not verify. It's been hot in Dobbs Ferry, and it's been hot in West Chesterfield. Whatever you observe from your construction site at 2000' doesn't make a difference. Your prediction was wrong...you got the above average precipitation part right, but you blew the temperatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Yes, you will be essentially a northern extension of the ORH hills just across the border at 1250-1300 feet. Pretty sick spot. You will now understand why we laughed at Dobbs Ferry all these years. (except the Feb 25, 2010 miracle you guys had, lol) The Snowicane is my favorite event ever...I have tons of pics. Here are a few awesome ones that I don't usually post: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Ugh. I am going to post so many palm tree and rain pictures this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Ugh. I am going to post so many palm tree and rain pictures this winter. You really need to move to Florida...then psot pics of coconut palms in your backyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 26" is not a bad snow pack.... If it should be a sub par winter, Rindge may not even attain that. Sometimes life can be bizarre like that. I have always been envious of Will's snowpack pics...it looks as if he had close to 40" on the ground last winter, whereas my maximum snow depth in my yard was 26", with spots in the woods ranging up to 30". But now I can have more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 It looks like we have a deformation like situation here in NY State now. The rain is pelting down good again and this surely has pushed us past 3 inches. Also the temperature fell four degrees to 58. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 We have the most classic sheet drizzle here right now. Not showing up on radar but its the heavy mist/drizzle that you feel as soon as you start walking forward outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarveyLeonardFan Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 AAAhhh, what a great night!! The coolest night I've experienced in Newport since June. It's currently 62 with a 61 degree dewpoint....not exactly cool, but in the context of the last 7 weeks, it feels great. Maybe I'm just getting older and I'm becoming less tolerant of heat, but I don't remember it being as warm down here when I was growing up during the 80s. Tonight feels so good beause I can only count on one hand the number of similarly cool nights since the very end of June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarveyLeonardFan Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Down here we had really high maximums from July 17-23, so I'm not sure this is entirely true for my location. We did have a ton of elevated nighttime temperatures earlier in July, but we also had some truly scorching weather later in the month. July 17: 90/71 July 18: 93/74 July 19: 89/73 July 20: 86/70 July 21: 95/72 July 22: 102/82 July 23: 96/79 Are those White Plains readings? Newport had more 90 degree temps last summer, I believe we only hit 90 3x this summer, but we had a lot more days in the 85-89 degree range than usual, and that blistering Friday when the dew point hit 81 was a day I'll never forget and walked downstairs and saw that the kitchen and bathroom floors were soaking wet. Oddly enough water temps have been running just a bit below normal this summer. Usually this time of year I jump in the water and am able to get my head wet within about 10 seconds, but just about all summer it's taken me up to a minute to get used to the water temp. before diving in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Are those White Plains readings? Newport had more 90 degree temps last summer, I believe we only hit 90 3x this summer, but we had a lot more days in the 85-89 degree range than usual, and that blistering Friday when the dew point hit 81 was a day I'll never forget and walked downstairs and saw that the kitchen and bathroom floors were soaking wet. Oddly enough water temps have been running just a bit below normal this summer. Usually this time of year I jump in the water and am able to get my head wet within about 10 seconds, but just about all summer it's taken me up to a minute to get used to the water temp. before diving in. No, those are readings from the Wunderground station in Scarsdale, NY that's a couple minutes from my house. HPN is usually a bit cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 You keep saying "It's been a cool, rainy summer" and then talking about how much precipitation New England climo sites have received. But having a lot of rain doesn't make it a cool summer, the first part of your statement; you try to make an inextricable link between these two ideas, which doesn't exist in meteorology. We've posted ORH climate data, temperature anomaly maps, as well as July climate summaries....all of them point to a hot month that overrides the fact that temperatures in June were around normal. In fact, we've been in an above normal regime for all of the late spring/summer, and there's no denying it. Here is May 1-July 31st, looks as if you were above normal: Here is July only, you are greater than +2F anomaly, Pete: It doesn't matter whether you work outside, whether I have AC, or whatnot. Meteorological data shows it's been a warm summer relative to climate normals for that area. End of story. Your cool, rainy summer did not verify. It's been hot in Dobbs Ferry, and it's been hot in West Chesterfield. Whatever you observe from your construction site at 2000' doesn't make a difference. Your prediction was wrong...you got the above average precipitation part right, but you blew the temperatures. First of all, I made my call at the end of May. June was AOB normal temp wise with near record rainfall. July was slightly above normal temp wise with near normal rainfall, August has already come in well above normal in the rain department and I suspect by month's end temps will finish without any great positive departures. As many others have pointed out much of positive temp departures can be attributed to elevated overnight lows and not searing hot days. The difference between 55 for a low and 65 for a low is less perceptible than the difference between 80 and 90. I am most interested in the daily high as this aspect of the summer has the most impact on me and my business. The number of hot humid days here can be counted on one hand. It simply has not been hot here as you state. You seem to think that you are a trained meteorologist. You are not. Last year you got into trouble with your holier than thou attitude. Your didactic posts to actual mets here were met with howls of laughter. Your Winter outlook, despite your endless sermonizing, could not have been farther from what actually occured. We shall see, in the end, where the final numbers land for this summer. As you admit, I've gotten the precip correctly already. Please, in the future, refrain from taking a presumptuous tone with me. Others here may put up with it but I can assure you I will not. Maybe as you move out into the world and become a full fledged adult you will learn this character trait hinders more than helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 First of all, I made my call at the end of May. June was AOB normal temp wise with near record rainfall. July was slightly above normal temp wise with near normal rainfall, August has already come in well above normal in the rain department and I suspect by month's end temps will finish without any great positive departures. As many others have pointed out much of positive temp departures can be attributed to elevated overnight lows and not searing hot days. The difference between 55 for a low and 65 for a low is less perceptible than the difference between 80 and 90. I am most interested in the daily high as this aspect of the summer has the most impact on me and my business. The number of hot humid days here can be counted on one hand. It simply has not been hot here as you state. You seem to think that you are a trained meteorologist. You are not. Last year you got into trouble with your holier than thou attitude. Your didactic posts to actual mets here were met with howls of laughter. Your Winter outlook, despite your endless sermonizing, could not have been farther from what actually occured. We shall see, in the end, where the final numbers land for this summer. As you admit, I've gotten the precip correctly already. Please, in the future, refrain from taking a presumptuous tone with me. Others here may put up with it but I can assure you I will not. Maybe as you move out into the world and become a full fledged adult you will learn this character trait hinders more than helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Climatologically speaking 90% of the people in the 413 live in a different world than you do when I note your obs. That's because 90% live in the valley with the large population areas of spfld, holyoke, chicopee, westfield, west springfield, northampton (these last three certainly not as big as the first three, but still large relative to the rest of 413 towns) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Coming back to the thread title: Storm total so far 2.86". Hoping I can manage to break 3, but not too confident. 56.7/56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collinsville Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 3.43" storm total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 I was in the screw zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I hope we get one of these in December... this would've been a crushing, crushing snowstorm. Rained all night and still raining steadily this morning... NW flow should continue to wring out precipitation even after this deform band moves SEward. Man the mid-level low tracks were about as climo classic for big snows as it can get for this area. Not looking forward to the 30 minute 4-wheeler ride up the mountain this morning... the waterbars look more like cascading rivers. Got the wool socks and under armor base layers on though; yesterday was enough to chill me to the bone on the upper mtn... 48-52F with 40mph SE winds and driving rain. I smartened up and will be more prepared today. Definitely feels like October. Currently 54F with RN at the bottom (1,500ft). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 That looks like a nice embedded shortwave in there over VT. Radar showing it nicely. Looks like its centered over CVT right now rotating S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 That looks like a nice embedded shortwave in there over VT. Radar showing it nicely. Looks like its centered over CVT right now rotating S. Think that holds as it goes SE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Yep a classic looking Nor'easter. It would have been a 36 hour snow event here with that deformation delivering another foot for a total of three feet + That last band pulled southeast of here around 10:00 AM and we finished with 3.4" of rain for the event. 1.6" on the front end (so to speak) and another 1.8" from yesterday afternoon through the overnight. I hope we get one of these in December... this would've been a crushing, crushing snowstorm. Rained all night and still raining steadily this morning... NW flow should continue to wring out precipitation even after this deform band moves SEward. Man the mid-level low tracks were about as climo classic for big snows as it can get for this area. Not looking forward to the 30 minute 4-wheeler ride up the mountain this morning... the waterbars look more like cascading rivers. Got the wool socks and under armor base layers on though; yesterday was enough to chill me to the bone on the upper mtn... 48-52F with 40mph SE winds and driving rain. I smartened up and will be more prepared today. Definitely feels like October. Currently 54F with RN at the bottom (1,500ft). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 Think that holds as it goes SE? It's looking pretty healthy right now. Edit. Maybe not Why the disconnect between the local BTV radar and the Northesat Regional? Are they set to different modes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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