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35F this morning, been between 34 and 35 since 8pm yesterday. Dense fog. .13" from the event. Only had a little mix of sleet late on 12/4, the rest was rain.

Some models hint at some warmth 18-20. I mean what could go wrong here?

Where are you located?

Some ensemble interest on the GEFS for Sunday night into Monday morning: As expected, Euro, not so much:

Pulses of almost nothing and then bursts of moderate snow for a couple of minutes.

Looks like another band moving into sw CT

13th definitely has some potential.

Yeah it was more of a squall line without wind

Congrats to all that got snow!

Interesting to see the trend for more return flow moisture for the Sunday night into Monday system on the GFS If anything the Euro is getting dryer It still has a little slug of moisture over S Alabama and eastern Georgia, but it doesn't really make it north. To be honest my choice to use 700mb is arbitrary, but is the place I see the biggest difference between the GFS and Euro on relative humidity panels: the 500 mb vort seems slightly more amped on the GFS, but not by much. NAMs and RRFS (thanks John for the heads up about ol Rufus) emphasize a second shortwave connected to the above, dropping in and enhancing upslope without much fanfare for the first shortwave the GFS likes. Here is Rufus and teh second shortwave in all Rufus's pixilated glory. I suspect the GFS is wrong about the first shortwave, since even the NAM in NAMing range isn't too interested, but could be nice for elevation areas in NE TN, SW VA, and especially Western NC if not. I think Carvers pointed out a run of the GFS yesterday that had like 6" in portions of that area.

Saw this guy hunting rats this morning

Been below 40 for about 24 hours here 37 currently. .31” overnight with heavy fog this morning. Brown wet ground . .

Some brief periods of light snow produced a dusting in Larchmont in southern Westchester County.

First official car topper of the season. We are so back!! 28F

DROUGHT MONITOR (12/04/2025) Minor changes to the latest drought monitor in the Harrisburg area. The majority of the area is still under the "Abnormally Dry" conditions as we continue to remain below average for 2025. IMPORTANT - the Drought Monitor only includes data up to 7 AM Tuesday. The data is reviewed, and the map will be released to the public (and the News 8 Storm Team) on Thursday morning. Any rainfall that occurred after 7 AM on Tuesday (no matter how heavy or light it is) is not included in that respective week's update. We will need to wait until next week's update to include any rainfall after Tuesday morning.

It was nice knowing you @H2O

I want to say it’s a “what can go wrong, will go wrong” type of pattern, but stepping back, we weren’t expecting most of NE to get snow in the first week of December until the models sold us that hopium of a SNE event. In fact, we were expecting a torch the week prior. That system trended colder at the low levels at the last second, giving more people frozen than we assumed just 24 hours prior, and today some of those areas are getting measurable, albeit minor, from a Fraud 5. The pattern is far from ideal, but we’re looking into the few days before Christmas now and a torch looks increasingly unlikely with plenty of shortwaves moving through the flow. The tradeoff is no KU potential, but I’m sure 90% of the subforum would take cold and no Grinch with minor stuff delivering at least some cover through Christmas than some high risk high reward pattern. If we get to the 20th and it’s snake eyes, then it’s time to sound the alarm.

Ground zero to start winter this year. It’s been a minute or 11 years.

12/5 - 1.9"

We didn’t really have fast flow autumn.

Baltimore Clippers you say?

CoCoRaHs snowfall below as of 8A/6. Please click for clarity. Measurable snow sleet occurred at CP, KEWR, KLGA, a couple days earlier than POR normal first date in the second week of Dec. My last on this thread. We can move onto something bigger and more extensive inclusive of LI by the first day of winter (I would hope).

12/5 1.5”