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The astute ( actually ...it doesn't take being very astute at all ) observer might point out how that longer term recording is a "serrated" trajectory. That means there are up periods ... and there are down periods.... but, the longer termed has proven that down has dominated the total journey.

Im at MSP getting ready to fly home. Way too many Ravens fans arriving here. Be a real shame if there are flight delays/cancelations Sunday and Monday

gonna disagree with this point. weather enthusiasts yes, scientists, not so much

Interesting, I don't recall the moderate freeze. FWIW the NWS defines a hard freeze at 28 according to this link. A freeze is still 32 degrees believe it or not...https://forecast.weather.gov/glossary.php?word=freeze

Nothing but CC.

What I think is amazing is how the global temperatures have risen at nearly a 1::1 correlation (proportionality) to that Keeling Curve spanning the same decades ... yet, they are not related! whooah - says people with accredited advancing research degrees that exhaustively plied through every thermodynamic physical methodology that has ever been known to man, too - You know, there is certainly a right to free speech. But, heh ...there is certainly just as much right to being roundly ignored, even chastised, for disconnect from reality, brick for a skulls walking around hee-hawing in abstinence over what science ( the pursuit of truth, mind you) has been 100% backing timelessly yeah...really amazing

Ok..so how’s the next week or so looking?

Well proper communication has not been a hallmark of CC advocates…so whatever.

There are parts of Antarctica that haven’t gone above freezing since we starting recording temps down there. Offhand…I think the all time record high at Vostok is +7F.

I agree. We are and have been in a very well coupled La Niña, both atmospherically and oceanically. I see absolutely no evidence at all to expect anything but a canonical La Niña pattern through March. It’s been following the classic La Niña footprint since the start of October and still is. Even if we go cold-neutral come January or February/March, there is no reason to believe the Niña pattern is going to somehow magically just instantly go away. There is always a lag of months between when ENSO phases switch and when you see the effects on the atmosphere

Wolf's stat did pique my interest. Sure enough, ice mass is up in 2025 for Antarctica, but looking at the data over time, I can't see anything saying we aren't melting more and more down there. Context matters, as do proper data analysis methods to properly communicate results.

Nahhh…No we’re not. Another mistaken idea.

Unusual compared to my old location, which sat nice and low and butted up against miles of farmland. My new location with its higher elevation hasn't been as conducive to the radiational cooling, at least not to the extent that my last place was. Although your memory is much better than mine, so it's possible I went cold earlier than you the last couple of seasons from my new spot too.

Man we are doomed as a society.

There a lot of signs that go against what you are saying. So please, take this shit, to the proper thread. And you can fixate all you want over here.

It's like that quote from ther terminator. The Denialnator.

Okay guys, looking at both ends of the spectrum, there are definitely natural atmospheric changes, whether it be due to volcanic eruptions, melting ice, we know from what's happened in the last millions of years that it's cyclical. Cyclical. However, some of these effects are definitely affected by what we as humans are doing as far as the use of oil, gas, chemicals, and co2s being pushed in our atmosphere. It definitely has an effect on fast forwarding climate change so there's no one person who's right or wrong here. Now back to the latest weather

And if it was in western Antarctica, they’d say the same thing. Give it a break now.

We are melting ice. Just like we still have snow but are getting warmer. It's not having it both ways.

Agree, its no longer a debate whether or not La Niña will develop. We are below the -0.5 threshold on the weeklies in 3 of the 4 ENSO regions, pretty much all the non ONI indices are consistent with La Niña, and the CPC has announced that La Nina conditions are present. So, La Niña is already here. The question is how long does it stay intact and when does it peak? I am hearing some people argue that the La Niña will break down in January and others believe it will remain intact the entire winter. What are your thoughts here? I am very skeptical of the idea it breaks down in January.

Enough now. We are told it’s getting warm and melting ice. Love how you try and have it both ways. Comical.

It’s all good baby…keep believing the crap. Any trend will reverse in time. Whether our lifetime or the nexts..it will reverse.

It's always cold there. LOL.

Colder temps lead to more ice…so.

That's like saying a record cold spell that lasts 2 days goes against the CC argument. Lots of snow in ern Antarctica helping with that. Look at the trends. Everybody acknowledges short term trends can trump an underlying signal, but it's like the stock market. Long term trend baby.