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Yea hard to pinpoint where the best banding will be. Anything that falls before dawn should stick especially on colder surfaces even in the city as we were well below freezing last night and ground is frozen

I’ll be down at my parents too. Watching playoff football with my Dad. Would love nothing more than football on the TV and some snow as ambiance!

I was just coming here to post that. It shows a bit of that localized boom potential that @Itstrainingtime posted about from MU.

They’re salting the roads all over Raleigh. Doubt we even get enough precip to wash it off

No one wants that

Music to my ears

Same. In case people missed it and are interested... below is a thread for general discussion on AI guidance beyond the Jan 18 storm: https://www.americanwx.com/bb/topic/62517-skynet-rise-of-the-forecast-machines-general-discussions-on-ai-guidance/ While I "do not have a lot of experience utilizing a lot of the AI guidance" (quoting Box AFD from this morning), some things I highlight in other thread relevant to Jan 18: • AI models tend to have broad QPF swaths that are overdone in areal coverage and not supported by physics • major weakness that is on display here: we have no idea why AI models do what they do... Why is AIGFS so robust here? Is it seeing something that physics models are not? Are the legacy models too sensitive to smaller features (e.g. the other day I suggested feedback between vorticity and convection sweeping off southeast coast hampering cyclogenesis), or is AI guidance not sensitive enough? If AI guidance changes, why did it change? Will that change be abrupt? These models are totally nebulous. Jan 18 is shaping up to be a great showdown.

And you sir I appreciate for your love of music AND weather! There aren't many here among the regular posters that are artsy and appreciate that kind of brain That and you seem like a genuinely fun dude and brighten things here--and somebody I'd probably vibe with over a coffee or a (non-alcoholic for me) drink!

This will be congrats Freak before you know it!

"Raise a glass"

Latest long range HRRR for tonight/tomorrow .

No pill needed

No thread until Euro bites. Euro never once folded to the nonsense of the GFS. If anyone feels like a rug pull it’s bc they were discounting the euro all along, a path to failure more times than not. That being said, for a day everything trended west it was assumed euro would keep doing the same but it put its foot in the ground and has barely budged since. I think having a lot of Mets hyping this up and assuming it would go west got more people than normal excited too.

Not in the N ORH hills... a bit west maybe

This is a pretty good theory. I wonder if the bias-correction also showed up (mostly successfully imho) in the “cutter” last weekend. A lot of OP models several days out kept showing big warm sectoring into New England but the AI models kept saying no dice and it would be much colder with wedging at the sfc. Much like what happens very frequently in the past where models get too warm-sector happy east of the Apps and north of about 41N. They turned out more correct. I think they were a touch too cold but closer to reality than the original OP runs…however, the biggest difference this time around is the OPs are still pretty far apart from AI. By the time we got inside 48h last weekend, the OP and AI guidance were mostly converged.

Another year, another dud for us in Central Ohio so far. I think our best shot is gonna come around mid-february otherwise- maybe a couple 2-3 inchers if we're lucky. Frankly, I'm sick of it.

It looks like it comes is 2 waves, with the front buckling north and then back south. Most of the predawn stuff should be snow. If precip. shuts off - and esp if the sun comes out briefly, surface temperatures are likely to spike. Whoever get into the banding the longest could get some decent snow.

Yep, that was where we looked at back in the great Winter's of our Youth. If it was the " Ice box" we were confident as usually that air from that area made a direct shot our way.

Strange, spectral (something related to lenticular?) clouds over Morgan and Roane counties: Apparently the mother ship was about to land on LeConte around noon:

I mentioned the AI models the other for the setup end of weekend and that still absolutely holds. The fact they haven’t wavered and are even upticking (albeit slightly) should be a tell on the setup likely having some legs here. There will be a sharp western gradient most likely as best ascent will focused in corridor within the RER of the jet situated off the Atlantic coast. Best chance for “appreciable” snow will likely lie east of I-95, and more likely eastern shore to the coast. I don’t see more than 3-4” in any given location at the max, but widespread 1-3” in the impacted areas is certainly plausible in this scenario. I like areas just west of the coast for this one. Salisbury to Lewes area might be a good spot, but we’ll see as we get the CAMs involved by tomorrow and definitely by Sunday AM.

Heavier "squall-like" snow showers possible tomorrow on top of the light snowfall tonight.

Life moves pretty fast. -Ferris Bueller Rain Snow

all you can do is laugh as we are getting surgically shafted going on 4 years now ..

I believe this is called the Theory of DGEX

wait, what did i do ? wait first of all, we don't know precisely how ... and by defacto 'what' these AI (apparent marketing gimmicks ) are doing. so how can we be sure about 20 or 30 years ago anyway? that's I pointed this out yesterday.. there's been no prospecti made easy to find - if at all - that answers the questions that everybody should be asking but no one is! jesus... degradation of virtuosity and method on both side. whereby any kind of advantages and disadvantages, circumstantially; basic modeling 101 stuff that has to be considered. confidence intervals... methodologies. nothing. we can't say jack shit about them. I'm hugely displeased at deployment and anyone that uses them .... man, caveat emptor