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That's why you can "cancel" winter around the 3rd week in January after already experiencing mostly un-winterlike conditions. By the end of the 3rd week of January, if no cold air is apparent in the 2 week long range, you can be pretty sure winter is over. February is regarded as the snowiest month, and you can have snowstorms in late February into March, but winter is normally waning by the end of February. To many, winter is a period of at least of 6 weeks of seasonably cold weather with some systems that produce(d) frozen precipitation. Any snow that does fall is slow to melt. Local small ponds freeze. I know, we have this "discussion" almost every year.

One day lol. As I said..let’s melt up and wash the roads.

I appreciate that, but I honestly wasn't offended by your post. It has definitely been a rough period lately in the extended range. To me, the fact that we have higher expectations now for Week 2 forecasts speaks highly to the progress that has been made. We just have to remember that certain patterns / transitions still give the models fits, and identifying those in advance is not trivial.

One for you too.

Have a nice red map.

Who the fuck is melting? Nobody is melting. And Tiger torch…you can STFU you fruitcake. You’re nothing but a POS spoon.

And REALLY close to good here, I'll take.

The west coast and Rockies need precip maybe even more than the MA does. They’ve been struggling this winter up to this point because we’ve stolen the cold air (which ultimately has added up to about 3” in Frederick, tops lol).

Carver, now we hope it sticks and not a headfake lol. Im ready for some real winter weather action

We are getting like an inch every 10 hours at 3,000ft in this persistent flurry, ha.

Good Lord, you'll never learn. You may experiencing a upper frontal lobe past memory brain infection which affects expectations on future events which are unrealistic results/outcomes. Happens mainly within the weather community. Treatment: Review the 99.999% of the time this didn't occur then smack yourself in the head 6 or 7 times, kick trashcans then tell yourself don't do this again until it happens again. Repeat therapy as needed... 29F/Cloudy

They were so bad that they needed to show that at least some of their recent picks can be starters or contribute meaningful minutes.

Are we at the “bus is in the shop” portion of prime winter?

What difference does it make?

Yeah there’s still a chance this warm sectors to Canadian border and we’re parakeets for a couple days. But the trend has def been to mute this and increase the CAD recently. I don’t think this debate matters that much in the scheme of things. It’s really just going to mean a number on the departure chart. I suppose it helps the ski areas to lessen the torch a bit. But for the majority, it doesn’t matter. It does seem to sweep past that pattern fairly quickly though. The wholesale PAC changes are inside D10 now.

Snowflakes. The mear mention of a warm up and they melt.

Hopefully it's more of a thaw than a long term break

@dryslot @WinterWolfDo you guys remember any of these from the old days? I went to a vintage show today. 170 entries. My back hurts just looking at them!

Not spiking anything. Just saying that it doesn’t look as intense as it did earlier on. It’s been the tenor so far. But I guess we’ll see. Let’s melt and wash up the roads…I’m good with that.

The warm stretch isn’t even here and people are spiking footballs when we still really don’t know.

If he cancelled he would’ve changed back to heat miser.

CT neurotics need reassurance. Everything is going to be OK

Fair enough. And I’m not worried about losing my pack. I have no issues with a thaw…in fact it will feel pretty nice, after the long hard freeze that we’ve had. And then Pattern looks much better soon after. It’s all good. Getting ready for a sled trip in a couple weeks…far NNE should/and look to avoid any real melting..which is good news for me.

Don’t read page 43

I don't know? I'm not a meteorologist, and don't make forecasts . Especially for areas where I don't live. But. I hope you guys down below do get some.