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Overall this December gets an A- 14” of snow, cold but a few warmer days mixed in to allow for outdoor activities. Lots of snow on the ground when holiday lights up. Really a very good month

Thanks for the heads up on potential zr - I wasn’t aware that was a chance (I’m dumb and assumed any precut would’ve in front of the temp collapse!).

Which is silly of course. The whole snow board thing is ludicrous. Just measure snow on a table top or god forbid the ground and call it a day. People go a little nuts

For -ENSO (17 seasons): 1872 10.6 1874 14.5 1886 6.6 1893 9.4 1903 15.6 1909 11.1 1915 0.7 1916 5.8 1917 13.2 1922 24.5 1926 5.7 1933 0.1 1942 9.5 1944 12.3 1995 26.1 2000 8.3 2010 36.0 Mean/median: 12.4/10.6 Interestingly, the lowest 2 Jans and highest 3 Jans were -ENSO.

They broke the GFS something bad. Used to give us fantasy snowstorms all the time.

DFW tied the record high of 82*F today.

What's wild is this storm still has the potential to overachieve beyond what's already forecasted for MSP.

Been a brutal shut the blinds stretch but signs of hope at least. If the expected +PNA -NAO actually sets up I’d expect to start seeing fantasy storms soon

Yeah I think this is what it is. It can officially be over 4", but be hard pressed to find an actual snow depth to match that this morning.

If there's a place that's prepared for this last minute, it's your neck of the woods. Congrats!

Carver, typically I get excited when John homenuk posts because he knows his stuff and i haven't seen him post in a while. His screen name was earthlight back at eastern weather forum and americanwx. Im just ready for some action lol.

Seems very reasonable, but keep expections tempered for now until we get closer in.

Allan talks about the transition period and how the pattern may evolve going forward. There seems to be more concensus about a mid month warm-up ahead of the improving Pac. We shall see. Allan Huffman @RaleighWx · 1h 1) As others have posted today, this look around 1/7 could be conducive to a potential East Coast winter storm. A west-based -NAO, a deep trough axis along the East Coast. We do lack a western NA ridge to really push cold air south though. If we can get a s/w to drop into the Deep South/TN Valley far enough SW it could help pop a low near the SE/mid-Atlantic coast. Certainly no guarantee but the chance is there. 2) I do think in general the period between 1/5 and 1/15 or so will see a transition to the overall long wave pattern. On today's 12z EPS, notice we see a ridge over Central Asia, a trough into east Asia and a ridge builds downstream over western North America. We could even see perhaps a Kona Low go into Hawaii which would re-enforce potential blocking ridging over the NE Pacific and provide an active subtropical jet stream. I do think this goes to a solid -EPO by mid-month. Show more Allan Huffman @RaleighWx 3) However in this transition period say day 12-17 or so, we could see milder temps for a few days across much of NA as the cross-polar flow temporarily shuts off. The west-based-NAO though may keep the Lakes/East normal or a little below normal. But our source region in Canada will warmup and will need some time to replenish the cold air via cross-polar flow. 4)Todays EC46 shows how this could play out and by weeks 3/4 we see a cold looking pattern with cross-polar flow, a -EPO/-AO/-NAO look and the cold air replenished in Canada. This would take us into late January. So I do think the 2nd half of January look promising for cold/snow in the East. We shall see!

https://x.com/bam_weather/status/2005038182279381143?s=20 Great BAM video here. Here are his main points: 1. Winter storm around Jan 4-8, specifically stating "it's gonna be a big one" and it'll "probably be an ohio valley, mid atlantic coastal" storm. 2. There will be a moderation period after the big storm 3. January 15-30 will be "cold and stormy"

Next up for a light snow chance is another Clipper potential around New Year’s Day.

The NAM at one point had Long Island changing to mostly sleet and barely any snow. It failed out here with the thermals big time.

Happy for the south shore crew. Love to see you guys clean up.

Amen brother

That’s due to the weather records not going back far enough in time on Long Island. Other spots like Newark with records back as far as the 1840s showed that something much closer to wall to wall cold and snow was the norm. The 30 year average seasonal snowfall at Newark was 43.7” with an average winter temperature of 30.4”.

It happened a lot from 2010-2015. those 5 years had many storms of snow on snow. I want to say 2014-2015? Insane snow cover and repeated snow in snow. I think at one point we had snow from like 5 different snows down at once.

BAM Weather @bam_weather · 1h The type of set-up into the second week of January won't be one that favors major arctic cold, but can offer up increased winter storm potential for the East Coast. No signs of this strong -NAO set up breaking down any time soon. Top analogs into January based on the Polar Vortex and Tropical Forcing also support the idea of a favorable set-up for snow in the lower OH/TN Valley regions and the Mid-Atlantic. Eventually as convection once again traverses the equatorial Pacific Ocean, we should see the Alaskan ridge (-EPO) rebuild and allow for a more widespread/consistent shot of cold air across the US mid-late January. The EPS Weekly is already hinting at this idea. Stay up to date with our Energy Reports on the pattern ahead here: https://bamwx.com/register/energy-commercial/

From the MA forum pattern thread...Interesting about the +NAO bias. I am pretty sure that Jon Wall was/is a longtime poster on the SE forum.

Nice 4 to 6 on 18z GFS on the 2nd

Going to be my first icer here. Elevation may put me in a warm spot given the temperature aloft.

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