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Eps and euro op are quite similiar. Both made a big west shift.

Some of the earlier runs reminded me of Juno.

Still needs a lot it seems, but we still have about a 100hrs to go yet

Yes a definite improvement. I hope Tonights 00z runs continue the trends we've seen at 18z

Or, better yet, do what the GFS does and turn that more meridional. In that position it would close it off just south of LI

again, 12z was very bad. Better as in good? or better as in still a miss but closer?

18z euro a huge positive step towards gfs/cmc. I just hope it’s not an off run hiccup. If we build off it at 00z we’re in the game.

With how rare those events are I'd never turn one away.

Again, we can work with that look at 500mb the big verbatim hits are fun and give that dopamine rush, but at this lead time all we need is for the pieces to be in play

Having flashbacks to Juno . Just kept coming NW starting day 5

EPS better!

From DT: THIS WEEK IN WX VIDEO TONIGHT LETS MONGER ABOUT SUNDAY MONDAY POSSIBLE EAST COAST WINTER STORM Just to give you all a clue…..Yesterday and again this morning and again this evening. NOAA/ NWS flew reconnaissance aircraft into the eastern Pacific to get a better sampling of the upper atmosphere and to make up for the loss of data from closure of several key weather stations in the upper planes in Midwest, which used to end up with the balloons to gather information about the atmosphere. The fact that the national weather service had to send out extra planes into the eastern, pacific to gather this data speaks to how badly the overall weather models have performed recently because of the lack of information from the weather stations that have been partially shut down in the upper Midwest. Guess what happened when they flew those planes and gather the extra data? They were a huge changes in what the models are showing is going to happen for Sunday Monday. Full details and discussion tonight on the weather video around 1030pm

RGEM stubbornly cold. wish it had more support

I think the main divergence is in if we can get the coastal to help us out. The 18z Euro shows a solution where we get pretty much no help from the coastal besides aiding in some moisture fetch and instead rely on the H5 dynamics to get any sort of snowfall. Meanwhile, the other camp of the GFS and CMC instead have the coastal prominently help out the H5 max through aiding in lift, moisture transport, and even cold air through the CCB. Is a bit of a egg and chicken game too where a stronger H5 vortmax is more likely to capture/induce a more favorable surface low position.

WB 18Z EURO compared to 12Z total precip.

To go from 12z to 18z on the Euro proves it's just as jumpy as the rest, albeit more conservative with precip year-round.

Yes! We're at a point where there ca't be anymore step backs. It's time for one these to break our way.

It's not done snowing at 105

Feels like the euro is just too fast. A little slower with the energy moving down and across the conus and I think it looks a lot more like the GFS and CMC.

Kuchera

Get rid of all that crap east of main vorticity and we got something.

Zoomed in 18z europe

Good trends, want to see that hold/continue through tomorrow night

Improvement