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Christmas 2002 was awesome. Totally out of the blue 6-8” in a few hours mostly with the closed ULL wraparound. I think the forecast was 1-3” but the low closed off in a great spot and the snow wrapped around from upstate NY.
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Central PA Fall Discussions and Obs
pawatch replied to ChescoWx's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
32 degrees and sunny. So far not much wind. -
That's awesome - the snow really was excellent. Looks like you were over by the Nose!
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That was the greatest comeback winter on record for multiple reasons. First, 01-02 was essentially a year without a winter. 3.5” of snow and a 41.5° average winter temperature. Second, the Christmas Day storm started with heavy thunderstorms and low 40s during the morning. Then my only 8” Christmas Day snowstorm in the evening for the greatest Christmas Day comeback of all-time. So a winter average of 31.2” and close to 50” of snow on the season.
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Closing out my comments on this thread... PNS OKX this morning. Wont surprise a couple gusts 46 MPH today but not like yesterday afternoon-evening. Added PHI PNS at 754AM NOUS41 KOKX 171154 PNSOKX CTZ005>012-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ067>075-078>081-176>179-172354- Public Information Statement National Weather Service New York NY 654 AM EST Mon Nov 17 2025 ...HIGHEST WIND GUST REPORTS FROM THE PAST 24 HOURS... Location Speed Time/Date Provider ...Connecticut... ...Fairfield County... Bridgeport Airport 52 MPH 0100 PM 11/16 ASOS ...Middlesex County... Middletown - Rt9nb - On Ramp 40 MPH 0129 PM 11/16 MESOWEST ...New Haven County... Bethany 55 MPH 0115 PM 11/16 CWOP Stony Creek 54 MPH 0355 PM 11/16 CWOP New Haven Airport 44 MPH 0340 PM 11/16 ASOS Lighthouse Point 43 MPH 0601 PM 11/16 WXFLOW ...New London County... Groton Airport 43 MPH 0246 PM 11/16 ASOS ...New Jersey... ...Bergen County... Teterboro Airport 46 MPH 0520 PM 11/16 ASOS ...Essex County... Caldwell 47 MPH 1150 AM 11/16 ASOS ...Hudson County... Bayonne 41 MPH 0542 PM 11/16 WXFLOW ...Union County... Newark Airport 54 MPH 0301 PM 11/16 ASOS Linden Airport 41 MPH 1155 AM 11/16 AWOS ...New York... ...Bronx County... Fordham 44 MPH 1140 AM 11/16 NYSM ...Kings County... Brooklyn College 55 MPH 0320 PM 11/16 NYSM South Slope 51 MPH 1232 PM 11/16 CWOP ...Nassau County... Bayville 58 MPH 0406 PM 11/16 WXFLOW Massapequa Park 51 MPH 0600 PM 11/16 CWOP Wantagh 47 MPH 0735 PM 11/16 NYSM ...New York (Manhattan) County... Midtown Manhattan 47 MPH 0235 PM 11/16 NYSM ...Orange County... Otisville 48 MPH 1155 AM 11/16 NYSM Stewart Airport 46 MPH 0145 PM 11/16 AWOS Montgomery Airport 46 MPH 0334 PM 11/16 AWOS Warwick 45 MPH 0115 PM 11/16 NYSM ...Putnam County... Brewster 41 MPH 0410 PM 11/16 NYSM Patterson 41 MPH 0525 PM 11/16 DAVIS ...Queens County... NYC/JFK Airport 53 MPH 0541 PM 11/16 ASOS NYC/La Guardia 50 MPH 0601 PM 11/16 ASOS Kew Garden Hills 47 MPH 0320 PM 11/16 NYSM ...Richmond County... 2 SE Elizabeth 45 MPH 1118 AM 11/16 NDBC College of Staten Island 43 MPH 1120 AM 11/16 NYSM ...Rockland County... Suffern 40 MPH 0350 PM 11/16 NYSM ...Suffolk County... Eatons Neck 60 MPH 0613 PM 11/16 WXFLOW Baiting Hollow 55 MPH 0414 PM 11/16 CWOP Islip Airport 55 MPH 0643 PM 11/16 ASOS Shoreham 53 MPH 0635 PM 11/16 DAVIS Shirley Airport 51 MPH 0709 PM 11/16 ASOS Southold 50 MPH 0510 PM 11/16 CWOP Westhampton Airport 49 MPH 1202 PM 11/16 ASOS Great Gull Island 49 MPH 1248 PM 11/16 WXFLOW Farmingdale Airport 47 MPH 1230 PM 11/16 ASOS Fire Island CG 47 MPH 0655 PM 11/16 WXFLOW Great South Bay 44 MPH 0352 PM 11/16 WXFLOW Blue Point 44 MPH 0734 PM 11/16 WXFLOW Orient 43 MPH 1250 PM 11/16 CWOP Montauk Airport 43 MPH 0407 PM 11/16 ASOS Brookhaven 43 MPH 0645 PM 11/16 CWOP West Gilgo Beach 43 MPH 0805 PM 11/16 CWOP Fishers Island Airport 42 MPH 0221 PM 11/16 WXFLOW Mecox Bay 42 MPH 0618 PM 11/16 WXFLOW Ridge 42 MPH 0138 AM 11/17 CWOP Southold 41 MPH 0540 PM 11/16 NYSM East Moriches CG 40 MPH 0155 PM 11/16 WXFLOW Stony Brook 40 MPH 0812 PM 11/16 CWOP ...Westchester County... White Plains Airport 55 MPH 0420 PM 11/16 ASOS Tappan Zee Light 14 53 MPH 0524 PM 11/16 WXFLOW Croton 43 MPH 1033 AM 11/16 WXFLOW ...Maritime Stations... ...Connecticut... Stongington Outer Breakwater 51 MPH 0237 PM 11/16 WXFLOW 1 ESE Norwalk 49 MPH 0107 PM 11/16 WXFLOW USCG Academy 41 MPH 0214 PM 11/16 WXFLOW ...New Jersey... Jersey City 41 MPH 0538 PM 11/16 CWOP ...New York... 15 S Atlantic Beach 54 MPH 1250 AM 11/17 NDBC Robbins Reef, NJ 52 MPH 1048 AM 11/16 NOS-PORTS 26 SSE Robert Moses State Pa 51 MPH 0740 PM 11/16 NDBC Northport 49 MPH 0605 PM 11/16 DAVIS Point O Woods YC 49 MPH 0602 PM 11/16 WXFLOW Larchmont Harbor 48 MPH 0317 PM 11/16 WXFLOW Shinnecock 48 MPH 0200 PM 11/16 WXFLOW 15 S Atlantic Beach 47 MPH 0440 PM 11/16 NDBC Kings Point 44 MPH 0536 PM 11/16 NOS-NWLON Fire Island CG 44 MPH 0651 PM 11/16 WXFLOW Manhattan Dwntwn 41 MPH 1018 AM 11/16 AWOS && From Mt Holly near our subforum issued just before 3AM today. ..Hunterdon County... Pittstown 45 MPH 1120 AM 11/16 NJWXNET Readington 43 MPH 0219 PM 11/16 AWOS ...Mercer County... Trenton 52 MPH 0423 PM 11/16 ASOS ...Middlesex County... Perth Amboy 58 MPH 0449 PM 11/16 WXFLOW ...Monmouth County... 1.0 NW Keansburg 53 MPH 1051 AM 11/16 HADS SEA BRIGHT 47 MPH 1058 AM 11/16 CWOP Belmar Farmdale 44 MPH 0215 PM 11/16 AWOS Sea Girt 43 MPH 0520 PM 11/16 NJWXNET Monmouth 42 MPH 1047 AM 11/16 WXFLOW Cream Ridge 41 MPH 0120 PM 11/16 NJWXNET Oceanport 41 MPH 0520 PM 11/16 NJWXNET ...Morris County... Morristown 43 MPH 0245 PM 11/16 AWOS Pequannock Twp High School 41 MPH 1216 PM 11/16 MESOWEST ...Ocean County... 1 SSW Seaside Park 54 MPH 1114 AM 11/16 Public 3 N Barnegat Light 52 MPH 1024 AM 11/16 Public Mantoloking 51 MPH 1046 AM 11/16 WXFLOW Rutgers 49 MPH 0107 PM 11/16 WXFLOW Beach Haven 49 MPH 0641 PM 11/16 CWOP Ocean Gate 47 MPH 1109 AM 11/16 Public Harvey Cedars 47 MPH 0105 PM 11/16 NJWXNET Toms River 46 MPH 1202 PM 11/16 AWOS Seaside Heights 45 MPH 1020 AM 11/16 NJWXNET 1 E Toms River 45 MPH 1119 AM 11/16 Public Trixies 45 MPH 1135 AM 11/16 WXFLOW Tuckerton 44 MPH 0111 PM 11/16 WXFLOW Toms River 43 MPH 0155 PM 11/16 DAVIS Seaside Heights 42 MPH 1229 PM 11/16 WXFLOW Tuckerton 42 MPH 0909 PM 11/16 HADS Berkeley Twp. 41 MPH 1120 AM 11/16 NJWXNET South Seaside Park 40 MPH 0109 PM 11/16 CWOP ...Salem County... Mannington Twp. 41 MPH 0140 PM 11/16 NJWXNET ...Somerset County... Somerville 48 MPH 0430 PM 11/16 ASOS ...Sussex County... High Point Monument 54 MPH 0505 PM 11/16 NJWXNET 2 N Hardyston Twp 47 MPH 0145 PM 11/16 AWS Sussex 45 MPH 0153 PM 11/16 ASOS LAFAYETTE 43 MPH 0220 PM 11/16 CWOP ...Warren County... Stewartsville 47 MPH 1220 PM 11/16 NJWXNET ...Pennsylvania... ...Berks County... Reading 53 MPH 1158 AM 11/16 ASOS 2 WSW Hamburg 52 MPH 0325 PM 11/16 PADOT Hopewell 47 MPH 1143 AM 11/16 RAWS 1 SSW Mount Penn 45 MPH 1125 AM 11/16 PADOT LENHARTSVILLE 45 MPH 1230 PM 11/16 CWOP Sinking Spring 44 MPH 1023 AM 11/16 CWOP Kutztown Area Middle School 40 MPH 0130 PM 11/16 MESOWEST ...Bucks County... Doylestown 46 MPH 0113 PM 11/16 ASOS Newbold NOS 42 MPH 1030 AM 11/16 NOS-PORTS ...Carbon County... Lehighton 42 MPH 1125 AM 11/16 CWOP ...Chester County... White Clay Creek West Grove- 52 MPH 0445 PM 11/16 DEOS2 Kimberton 46 MPH 1130 AM 11/16 DAVIS Coatesville 45 MPH 0215 PM 11/16 AWOS 1 ESE West Sadsbury Twp 42 MPH 0150 PM 11/16 PADOT Cochranville 42 MPH 0342 PM 11/16 CWOP Red Clay Creek Kennett Squar 41 MPH 1135 AM 11/16 DEOS2 West Chester 41 MPH 1235 PM 11/16 AWOS WEST BRANDYWINE 40 MPH 0115 PM 11/16 CWOP ...Delaware County... Upper Chichester 42 MPH 0145 PM 11/16 CWOP ...Lehigh County... Lehigh Valley Intl Airport 58 MPH 1133 AM 11/16 ASOS Queen City 46 MPH 1215 PM 11/16 AWOS Macungie 43 MPH 0920 AM 11/16 CWOP Trexler 40 MPH 0143 PM 11/16 RAWS ...Monroe County... Mt. Pocono 55 MPH 1057 PM 11/16 ASOS Wind Gap 44 MPH 0425 PM 11/16 PADOT ...Montgomery County... 1 SE Fort Washington 51 MPH 1250 PM 11/16 PADOT Pottstown 44 MPH 1202 PM 11/16 ASOS Willow Grove 42 MPH 1100 AM 11/16 CWOP ...Northampton County... CATASAUQUA 43 MPH 0453 PM 11/16 CWOP ...Philadelphia County... 1 SSE South Philadelphia 54 MPH 0310 PM 11/16 PADOT Philadelphia International A 50 MPH 0138 PM 11/16 ASOS Philadelphia Northeast 50 MPH 0240 PM 11/16 ASOS Philadelphia 42 MPH 1115 AM 11/16 CWOP &&
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2025-2026 ENSO
40/70 Benchmark replied to 40/70 Benchmark's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
Yes, I do expect a +PNA month of January. -
November 2025 general discussions and probable topic derailings ...
weatherwiz replied to Typhoon Tip's topic in New England
Woke up to the first coating of snow on the season this morning! Coating may be too strong of a word though...maybe a sprinkle of snow...like loading mashed potatoes up with salt -
November 2025 general discussions and probable topic derailings ...
CT Rain replied to Typhoon Tip's topic in New England
Yeah it's def been running warm. -
No idea. I never look at 45 day snow maps lol.
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Central PA Fall Discussions and Obs
mahantango#1 replied to ChescoWx's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Around 10:45pm last night had a sleet/snow shower. -
Fall 2025 Medium/Long Range Discussion
A-L-E-K replied to Chicago Storm's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
gonna be rough when the sswe ends up burying I95 while we do the cad thing -
NNE Cold Season Thread 2025-2026
EMontpelierWhiteout replied to Boston Bulldog's topic in New England
Looking nice! Do you know why the mountain cams on the Stowe website are not up for public viewing? I’ve been able to locate the replay loop in other places, but not any live feeds. On the site, they just have the annoying “Webcam Currently Off Line” for all. -
lol. You are in. Midseason form. Relax. When do weeklies ever show this on Nov 17
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Still a few LE flurries and very light snow showers lurking out here.
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2025-2026 ENSO
40/70 Benchmark replied to 40/70 Benchmark's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
If they were all the same, Outlooks would be easy. -
32 degree's in Mahwah, Gorgeous chilly morning on my last shift here at the communications center.
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I caught flurries in the middle of the night on a camera I have along the woods line. The flurries didn’t trigger it but the two bucks going back and forth did. Hard to tell exactly how big but one appeared to be a young 4 pointer, the other larger one appeared to be at least a 6, possibly 8, pointer. As a result of the clouds it didn’t get a cold as forecast here, off by about 5 degrees, low of 34.
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November 2025 general discussions and probable topic derailings ...
WinterWolf replied to Typhoon Tip's topic in New England
Oh agreed. .I’ve said similar. He may be taking a morning swim down there as we type? -
our cutters showing a real propensity to go poof and the big flip cold looking like a dud sad
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November 2025 general discussions and probable topic derailings ...
CoastalWx replied to Typhoon Tip's topic in New England
I mean it’s a warmer spot, but I’ve been commenting about that station for over a year. There’s no reason why it should be the warmest spot in all of SNE in this setup. - Today
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November 2025 general discussions and probable topic derailings ...
WinterWolf replied to Typhoon Tip's topic in New England
He’ll be posting palm tree pictures in the corners of buildings…and saying the low today was 45 -
The only Southeast ridge component that really matters is on the day of the storms like last winter. Even if a Southeast ridge isn’t showing in the means, if a storm is tracking through the Great Lakes we will get the Southeast ridge to flex for a day before the storm cuts to our west or hugs the I-78 to I-84 corridor. Long range ensembles never show this since they are too smoothed out in the long range and have trouble seeing the individual shortwaves. We really haven’t seen a gradient pattern work closer to NYC in a long time due to this for more than light snows.
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Bad sign.
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I think we need a title change here. No warm season here this A.M.
